Sandflea Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Just received an auction win of a Marvel Preview lot (#s16-25) today, and noticed that all of them had the Mark Jewelers insert in them. I've heard of this insert, which had been included in comics distributed from military bases toward the end of the Vietnam War. My question is, would this insert increase the value of a comic by a bit, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Ultra Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 To some yes, to other's probably not. If you sell advertise it as such. Sandflea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandflea Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 To some yes, to other's probably not. If you sell advertise it as such. Thanx for the info. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Just received an auction win of a Marvel Preview lot (#s16-25) today, and noticed that all of them had the Mark Jewelers insert in them. I've heard of this insert, which had been included in comics distributed from military bases toward the end of the Vietnam War. My question is, would this insert increase the value of a comic by a bit, if any? MJI (and National Diamond) were put in books distributed to overseas military bases (although it has been confirmed that some were distributed at US bases). They ran in every 32 page book (not giants or square bound) from most of the major players (Marvel, DC, Dell/Gold Key, Charlton) from '72 through the early '90s. Unless you have one in a key issue you're not going to see any premium. However, I have seen where they actually make the sale on some more common and/or lower grade books that just don't seem to move. Sandflea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill999 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 National Diamond Sales inserts can be found in Marvels round bound Giant size Monsters on the Prowl #13 ( 52 pager) which I have a copy of. Also one might note Archie's from the 1972 time period can also be found with National Diamond Sales inserts. One example I know of is Archie at Riverdale High #1. The National Diamond Sales inserts preceeded the Mark Jeweler inserts with Marvel and DC. DCs Mark Jeweler inserts actually began appearing in comics three months before Marvels back in 1972. Sandflea and Esaravo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'll have to check my hoard but I think Marvel went MJI (maybe one month), then ND, then back to MJI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Less Blob Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Unless you have one in a key issue you're not going to see any premium. However, I have seen where they actually make the sale on some more common and/or lower grade books that just don't seem to move. _____________ But that is a premium! If you can sell something that woould normally have trouble moving, that seems like a premium to me. No, not a huge premium like 35 cent variants, but a boost. Kindah like very early Direct Market versions of Marvels (and maybe (some?) DC Whitmans). If you can sell a mid-grade copy of some generic mid-70's marvel for OPG that's a heck of a lot better than what you might ordinarily do. Sandflea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Less Blob Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Anyway, I think they're a lot more common in areas with a lot of military. For example, I rarely see them up in NYC (where we don't have too many military bases) and you'd think that by now comics should be spread all over the country (especially because at shows I'm buying from a lot of NJ dealers who are closer to bases), but honestly, I probably own 10-15,000 BA books and maybe 25 of them are the MJ inserts. Sandflea and waaaghboss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill999 Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 DCs Mark Jewelers first 4 page inserts that appeared in DC comics back in 1972. Marvels MJ inserts began on Marvel comics cover month dated 11/72.. Check your books to verify the listed below. "7 of 45" below listed books are verified and noted... . Minor key DC books on the list. Weird Mystery Tales #1 Weird Worlds #1 Larry Harmon's Laurel and Hardy #1 Demon #1 Wanted #1 DC Comics Mark Jewelers First Ad Insert Issues. A total of 45 books covering 45 DC titles. Action Comics #415 August 1972 Adventure Comic #422 August 1972 Batman #243 August 1972 Demon #1 September 1972 Detective Comics #426 August 1972 Falling In Love #135 August 1972 Flash #217 September 1972 Fobidden Tales Of Dark Mansion #6 August 1972 Forever People #10 September 1972------verified to contain MJ insert. From Beyond The Unknown #18 September 1972 Ghosts #6 August 1972 G.I Combat #155 September 1972------verified to contain MJ insert. Girls Love Stories #172 August 1972 Heart Throbs #144 August 1972 House Of Mystery #205 August 1972------verified to contain MJ insert. House Of Secrets #99 August 1972-----verified to contain MJ insert. Inferior Five #11 September 1972 Justice League Of America #100 August 1972 Korak Son Of Tarzan #47 August 1972 Laurel And Hardy #1 August 1972 Mister Miracle #9 August 1972 New Gods #10 September 1972------verified to contain MJ insert. Our Fighting Forces #138 August 1972 Phantom Stranger #20 August 1972 Secrets Of Sinister House #6 September 1972 SGT. Rock #248 August 1972 Star Spangled War Stories #164 September 1972 Strange Adventures #237 August 1972 Superboy #189 August 1972 Superman #255 August 1972 Superman's Girl Friend Lois Lane #125 August 1972-----verified to contain MJ insert. Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #152 September 1972 Tarzan #211 August 1972 Teen Titans #40 August 1972 Unexpected #138 August 1972 Wanted #1 August 1972 Weird Mystery Tales #1 August 1972 Weird War Tales #6 August 1972 Weird Western Tales #13 September 1972-----Verified to contain MJ insert. Weird Worlds #1 September 1972 Witching Hour #22 August 1972 Wonder woman #213 August 1972 Worlds Finest #213 August 1972 Young Love #98 August 1972 Young Romance #185 August 1972 Esaravo and Sandflea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandflea Posted May 24, 2011 Author Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thanx for the posting the DC MJ list, Bill. Will be working off this... (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjesper Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Just got a National Diamond insert Conan #24 graded! Sandflea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandflea Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Would like to thank everyone who replied in this thread & offered info on these particular inserts...very much appreciated. Hope to run into other copies with the inserts in the near future. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4GEMWORKS Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Would like to thank everyone who replied in this thread & offered info on these particular inserts...very much appreciated. Hope to run into other copies with the inserts in the near future. (thumbs u HI BILL- I HAVE A QUESTION: YOU ARE NOT SAYING THAT THOSE WERE THE ONLY DC TITLES TO CONTAIN MJ iNSERTS, ARE YOU? I AM ASSUMING THESE WERE THE ONLY AUGUST 72 TITLES THAT WERE AVAILABLE? DID ALL TITLES THROUGHOUT HAVE THEM AT SOME TIME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill999 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Yes, other later year DC titles contained MJ inserts as well. The MJ inserts with DC comics ran 1972-1986 I believe. Cpt Kirk and Sandflea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Your data is a little off. Here's the timeline for Marvels: April 1971 - October 1972 - National Diamond Sales November - December 1972 - Mark Jewelers Inserts January - April 1973 - National Diamond Sales May - June 1973 - Haven't seen a copy w/inserts July 1973 - MJ Inserts with the Mennen Wrap August - September 1973 - MJ Inserts October 1973 - MJ Insert with the Alka Seltzer Wrap November 1973 - Febuary 1985 - MJ Insert March 1985 - MJ Insert with the Bose Wrap April 1985 - July 1991 - MJ Insert The earliest DCs with MJ inserts I've also seen is Aug 1972 and ended in 1986. The NDS/MJ inserts also ran in Archies and Gold Keys from late-1971 to 1973. I've never found a Charlton with the inserts... Jim Sandflea, Cpt Kirk and 4512691 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill999 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 You are correct I agree with you and your time line dates. I also have never seen a Charlton with a MJ or NDS insert ad in it. I find the below to be the first Marvel issues of Marvel titles that can be found with Mark Jewelers inserts inside them and posted them below. All are picture frame Marvel issues cover dated November/December 1972. I agree with you the Marvel NDS inserts as you mentioned started with 1971 April/May cover month dated issues. Amazing Adventures #15 Amazing Spider-Man #114 Astonishing Tales #15 Avengers #105 Captain America #155 Captain Marvel #23 Chamber of Chills #1 Chilli #20 Combat Kelly #4 Conan #20 Creatures on the Loose #20 Daredevil #93 Defenders #3 Doc Savage #2 Fantastic Four #128 Fear #11 Harvey #6 Hulk #157 Iron Man #52 Journey into Mystery #2(2nd series) Jungle Action #2(2nd series) Kid Kolt #164 Kull #5 Luke Cage, Hero For Hire #4 Marvel's Greatest Comics #39 Marvel Feature #6 Marvel Premiere #5 Marvel Spotlight #7 Marvel Tales #39 Marvel Team Up #5 Marvel Triple Action #7 Millie the Model #199 Monsters On the Prowl #20 Night Nurse #1 Outlaw Kid #13(2nd series) Rawhide Kid #105 Red Wolf #4 SGT Fury #104 Shanna, the She Devil #1 Special Marvel Edition #7 Sub-Mariner #55 The Cat #1 The Gunhawks #2 Thor #205 Tomb of Dracula #5 Two Gun Kid #107 Warlock #3 Werewolf By Night #2 Where Monsters Dwell #18 X-Men #79 Sandflea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Here's a question for you guys: Is there a complete list of ALL of the comics that could have contained a Mark Jewelers insert? Or does such a list even exist? Cpt Kirk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I have a couple books with an Atari insert. Anybody have any background ? I also have MJ Inserts in Ghosts 14,17,20,21,22,23,24,25,27, and 28. Witching Hour 24,42, and 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Not sure if there is a thread already but perhaps we should run with this one? Esaravo, Cpt Kirk and mec3437 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I have an additional question. I have a Fear #17 which has the four-page Mark Jewelers insert (on uncoated paper), plus another wrap printed on coated paper with some other military-related ad, which is between the cover and the first wrap. Is that normal for regular MJ inserts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...