another reason not to trust PGX

[G.A.tor]

I bought this book last year on ebay...sent it to cgc and it was restored (3.5 slight professional with Restoration includes: small amount of glue on spine of cover, cover & centerfold reinforced, cover cleaned ...)

 

listed on clink

http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%5Fadv%2Easp%3Fall%3Dy%26TITLE%3D%26TITLEOPT%3DALL%26ISSUE%3D%26Condition%3D%26ConditionTo%3D%26CensusRank%3D%26Pedigree%3D%26PRICEF%3D500%26PRICET%3D%26DESCRIPTION%3D%26DESCRIPTIONOPT%3DALL%26SearchRemarks%3D%26SearchCGC%3D%26EXCLUDE%3D%26CATEGORIES%3D%2D1%26WCATEGORIES%3D%2D1%26SORT%3DNEW%26%5Fwhere%5Fforsale%3Dy%26%5Fwhere%5Fauctions%3Dy%26x%3D17%26y%3D10%26where%5Fforsale%3Dy&id=897101

 

as unrestored...beware

[walclark]

Clearly says "centerfold reinforced" on the label. I would have thought that would have been enough to make it a PLOD. Of course, no mention of the other things that CGC noted.

[Mutie Fan]

Thanks for the heads up Gator!

[G.A.tor]

I also emailed to josh...but wanted to warn my fellow collectors!

 

you might be able to scrape glue, but you can't unclean a cover, so it is restored anyway you slice it!!!!

 

and i graded it a 3.0 to 3.5...no way it is even close to a 4.5!

[Superman2006]

Does PGX have a restored label? I could be wrong (and I probably am ) but I thought they just noted the restoration on the label and used the same blue label as they do for unrestored books.

 

If so, then isn't this more of an issue with the person who listed the book not having properly selected the drop down box to note that it is restored when listing the book (whether intentionally or inadvertently)?

 

I believe there are some people that would support CGC also use the same colored label for all books and to just note the restoration on the label (so as not to stigmatize restored books quite so much).

 

Edit: Nevermind, I didn't read the extent of the resto in your original post!

 

[dopy02]

PGX does have a restored label

green if I recall

[Superman2006]

Ahhh, thanks!

[dopy02]

Ahhh, thanks!

looked and found this on ebay

[Ted Knight]

This is pretty sad. Thanks for the heads up, Gator. (thumbs u

[mt1000]

I went to a local convention here in MA and they were giving a door prize away it was a Batman 1 PGX .05 or a 1.0 i honestly cant remeber. Anyways the book was only about half complete with a repro cover and it had a blue label stating the cover was a repro and nothing else i was shocked or the label may have said something but i know it didnt say ''missing half the book lol''

[G.A.tor]

I always said there is a reason that folks send a high $ book to a grading company other than Cgc

 

I believe I have a scan of the book on my store computer. Will check tomorrow

[Hibou]

I think the reason NOT to use PGX sits right there in that Sensation 1 Green Label!

 

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't that label read "1st app of Mr. Terrific, Wonder Woman, Wildcat"?

 

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[Ted Knight]

That's not the first appearance of Wonder Woman??!! Since when?

 

 

 

[TheShadowKnows]

I talked to a vendor about 6 months ago about Dan and PGX.He was telling me how Dan was treating him right with fast turnaround times and 15 a book fees.It all went well until his 3.5 xmen 1 got switched for a 1.5.

 

DONT USE PGX YOU WILL GET OVER

[Bat-Man]

[Ameri]

I had a bad PGX experience a few years ago. I bought a raw Four Color 62 and then found out that it was missing the centerfold. Not easy to detect a missing centerfold on that book because the stories flowed smoothly even without it. Disgusted, I decided to get a slabbed one and bought a PGX off Ebay. It was a blue label 2.5. First and only time I ever had the desire to break a slab, but I was determined to see that centerfold. Well, I broke it open and, lo and behold, no centerfold on that one either! I called the seller and told him I want my money back. He reimbursed me and then he called PGX to complain as he had just gotten it slabbed by them. They apologized and reimbursed his evaluation fees and explained to him that it was just a "label mixup." Sounded fishy. A label mix-up would presume that they had a second Four Color 62 to evaluate at the same time as the one I got. Just a fluke and honest mistake? Maybe, but it was the first and only time I ever broke open a slab. That's scary!

[generic user]

Don't think buying a CGC slab is fool-proof either. How many pages does Looney Tunes 20 have? 60? 68? I don't know, but neither does CGC (and the answer isn't 52!). Cracked this one yesterday, and the pissedoffedness is taking awhile to subside...

 

 

[Senormac]

[generic user]

that's the end of the story. not trying to crucify CGC for this, it's an honest mistake. and I have no love for PGX. only bought one book in a PGX slab and that was one too many.

[Forbush-Man]

Thing is, one of the first steps with CGC is to do a page count, right?

 

 

As for PGX: I just assume any PGX book to be the same as a raw, restored book. I don't seek them out, though. I have little use for their product.