Dealer Selling Rule #1

[comix4fun]

I hope it made you chuckle.

 

 

very much so. I wasn't expecting it.

 

 

I thought you'd go in another direction...

 

 

 

so I was pleasantly giggly.

[DeliBebek]

This just cements my opinion that message boards are poison. They allow people to say and do things they would never, ever say or do in real life. The end result will probably always be bitterness, enmity, and discord.

 

Message boards need "like" buttons.

[USArmyParatrooper]

must... resist... googoo gaga.....

[Ogami]

This just cements my opinion that message boards are poison. They allow people to say and do things they would never, ever say or do in real life. The end result will probably always be bitterness, enmity, and discord.

 

Message boards need "like" buttons.

 

I can't imagine that being an improvement.

[jkrk]

At the Reed New York show I was at my booth giving a customer some prices on books he was interested in.

 

Doug Schmell of Pedigreecomics.com sees my customer, comes over and hands him and I a sale sheet of books he has for sale.

 

This is while I am speaking to my customer giving him prices.

 

My customer looks at the list and tells Doug the only book he would be interested in would be the Strange Tales #105 9.4.

 

Doug then reaches into his briefcase and places the book on top of my boxes for my customer to check out.

 

He looks at the book while I'm still trying to give him all of my best prices on the books he's interested in.

 

My customer tells me and Doug that he is waiting for a call from his secretary.

 

My customer leaves.

 

Doug is still in front of my booth.

 

I tell Doug and I quote "Don't ever do ing business at my booth again"

 

Doug seems a little surprised. He quickly gives me a "I'm sorry".

 

I then ask him if he would like to give me $100 for doing business at my booth.

 

He proceeds to tell me that he doesn't have to give me $100. I remind him that I paid to setup at the show.

 

I could tell that Doug doesn't really feel he did something wroing so I told him that if he thought what he did was ok he should walk around the show and ask other dealers. I told him that somebody else might have punched him in the face. He basically told me that probably wouldn't have happened.

 

He then states that this has nothing to do with my customer, that I'm still pissed off that he got first look at the Greg Reece collection.

 

I state again that this has nothing to do with the Greg Reece books and to not do business at my booth ever again. He comes back with "I said I'm sorry" and that he was leaving soon and might have missed dealing with the guy. I told him I didn't care what his time schedule was and that if he had business to do with the buy it was in the aisle or somewhere else.

 

Doug's last comment to me which basically states that he doesn't give a rats about anything I just said was "Was there anyting on the list you were interested in".

 

I told him to take the list and shove it.

 

If any new sellers aren't clear about this rule let me state it again.

 

Don't ever do your selling business at a dealers booth.

 

Does it make a difference if:

 

A customer walks over to a dealer 1's booth and asks for the best price on 10 books that he has an interest in. The dealer tells him that he will compile a list and get him the prices in a couple of minutes. The potential customer thanks him and asks him if the dealer could rush the list as he needs to get back to the office in a hurry. The dealer spots the customer at another booth. Dealer 1 sees that a second dealer is working on a list for the same customer so with no direct interaction taking place dealer 1 hands the customer his list.

 

In my imagined scenario, I really can't fault anyone. I'm not saying this is your case but simply conjured up my own scenario.

 

Then again I'm a bit of a novice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[comix4fun]

At the Reed New York show I was at my booth giving a customer some prices on books he was interested in.

 

Doug Schmell of Pedigreecomics.com sees my customer, comes over and hands him and I a sale sheet of books he has for sale.

 

This is while I am speaking to my customer giving him prices.

 

My customer looks at the list and tells Doug the only book he would be interested in would be the Strange Tales #105 9.4.

 

Doug then reaches into his briefcase and places the book on top of my boxes for my customer to check out.

 

He looks at the book while I'm still trying to give him all of my best prices on the books he's interested in.

 

My customer tells me and Doug that he is waiting for a call from his secretary.

 

My customer leaves.

 

Doug is still in front of my booth.

 

I tell Doug and I quote "Don't ever do ing business at my booth again"

 

Doug seems a little surprised. He quickly gives me a "I'm sorry".

 

I then ask him if he would like to give me $100 for doing business at my booth.

 

He proceeds to tell me that he doesn't have to give me $100. I remind him that I paid to setup at the show.

 

I could tell that Doug doesn't really feel he did something wroing so I told him that if he thought what he did was ok he should walk around the show and ask other dealers. I told him that somebody else might have punched him in the face. He basically told me that probably wouldn't have happened.

 

He then states that this has nothing to do with my customer, that I'm still pissed off that he got first look at the Greg Reece collection.

 

I state again that this has nothing to do with the Greg Reece books and to not do business at my booth ever again. He comes back with "I said I'm sorry" and that he was leaving soon and might have missed dealing with the guy. I told him I didn't care what his time schedule was and that if he had business to do with the buy it was in the aisle or somewhere else.

 

Doug's last comment to me which basically states that he doesn't give a rats about anything I just said was "Was there anyting on the list you were interested in".

 

I told him to take the list and shove it.

 

If any new sellers aren't clear about this rule let me state it again.

 

Don't ever do your selling business at a dealers booth.

 

Does it make a difference if:

 

A customer walks over to a dealer 1's booth and asks for the best price on 10 books that he has an interest in. The dealer tells him that he will compile a list and get him the prices in a couple of minutes. The potential customer thanks him and asks him if the dealer could rush the list as he needs to get back to the office in a hurry. The dealer spots the customer at another booth. Dealer 1 sees that a second dealer is working on a list for the same customer so with no direct interaction taking place dealer 1 hands the customer his list.

 

In my imagined scenario, I really can't fault anyone. I'm not saying this is your case but simply conjured up my own scenario.

 

Then again I'm a bit of a novice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Out of courtesy, you would speak the the second dealer before anything else. You would inform him of what transpired earlier and that you aren't trying to impinge on his selling space and you would be glad to step away from the booth to complete the task you promised to the customer before he came to the second dealer's booth.

 

Common courtesy, respect, and decorum go a long way to defuse a potentially angry situation.

 

 

[asteroid-comix]

At the Reed New York show I was at my booth giving a customer some prices on books he was interested in.

 

Doug Schmell of Pedigreecomics.com sees my customer, comes over and hands him and I a sale sheet of books he has for sale.

 

This is while I am speaking to my customer giving him prices.

 

My customer looks at the list and tells Doug the only book he would be interested in would be the Strange Tales #105 9.4.

 

Doug then reaches into his briefcase and places the book on top of my boxes for my customer to check out.

 

He looks at the book while I'm still trying to give him all of my best prices on the books he's interested in.

 

My customer tells me and Doug that he is waiting for a call from his secretary.

 

My customer leaves.

 

Doug is still in front of my booth.

 

I tell Doug and I quote "Don't ever do ing business at my booth again"

 

Doug seems a little surprised. He quickly gives me a "I'm sorry".

 

I then ask him if he would like to give me $100 for doing business at my booth.

 

He proceeds to tell me that he doesn't have to give me $100. I remind him that I paid to setup at the show.

 

I could tell that Doug doesn't really feel he did something wroing so I told him that if he thought what he did was ok he should walk around the show and ask other dealers. I told him that somebody else might have punched him in the face. He basically told me that probably wouldn't have happened.

 

He then states that this has nothing to do with my customer, that I'm still pissed off that he got first look at the Greg Reece collection.

 

I state again that this has nothing to do with the Greg Reece books and to not do business at my booth ever again. He comes back with "I said I'm sorry" and that he was leaving soon and might have missed dealing with the guy. I told him I didn't care what his time schedule was and that if he had business to do with the buy it was in the aisle or somewhere else.

 

Doug's last comment to me which basically states that he doesn't give a rats about anything I just said was "Was there anyting on the list you were interested in".

 

I told him to take the list and shove it.

 

If any new sellers aren't clear about this rule let me state it again.

 

Don't ever do your selling business at a dealers booth.

 

Does it make a difference if:

 

A customer walks over to a dealer 1's booth and asks for the best price on 10 books that he has an interest in. The dealer tells him that he will compile a list and get him the prices in a couple of minutes. The potential customer thanks him and asks him if the dealer could rush the list as he needs to get back to the office in a hurry. The dealer spots the customer at another booth. Dealer 1 sees that a second dealer is working on a list for the same customer so with no direct interaction taking place dealer 1 hands the customer his list.

 

In my imagined scenario, I really can't fault anyone. I'm not saying this is your case but simply conjured up my own scenario.

 

Then again I'm a bit of a novice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait until the customer leaves dealer #2's booth and then give him the list (thumbs u

[jkrk]

At the Reed New York show I was at my booth giving a customer some prices on books he was interested in.

 

Doug Schmell of Pedigreecomics.com sees my customer, comes over and hands him and I a sale sheet of books he has for sale.

 

This is while I am speaking to my customer giving him prices.

 

My customer looks at the list and tells Doug the only book he would be interested in would be the Strange Tales #105 9.4.

 

Doug then reaches into his briefcase and places the book on top of my boxes for my customer to check out.

 

He looks at the book while I'm still trying to give him all of my best prices on the books he's interested in.

 

My customer tells me and Doug that he is waiting for a call from his secretary.

 

My customer leaves.

 

Doug is still in front of my booth.

 

I tell Doug and I quote "Don't ever do ing business at my booth again"

 

Doug seems a little surprised. He quickly gives me a "I'm sorry".

 

I then ask him if he would like to give me $100 for doing business at my booth.

 

He proceeds to tell me that he doesn't have to give me $100. I remind him that I paid to setup at the show.

 

I could tell that Doug doesn't really feel he did something wroing so I told him that if he thought what he did was ok he should walk around the show and ask other dealers. I told him that somebody else might have punched him in the face. He basically told me that probably wouldn't have happened.

 

He then states that this has nothing to do with my customer, that I'm still pissed off that he got first look at the Greg Reece collection.

 

I state again that this has nothing to do with the Greg Reece books and to not do business at my booth ever again. He comes back with "I said I'm sorry" and that he was leaving soon and might have missed dealing with the guy. I told him I didn't care what his time schedule was and that if he had business to do with the buy it was in the aisle or somewhere else.

 

Doug's last comment to me which basically states that he doesn't give a rats about anything I just said was "Was there anyting on the list you were interested in".

 

I told him to take the list and shove it.

 

If any new sellers aren't clear about this rule let me state it again.

 

Don't ever do your selling business at a dealers booth.

 

Does it make a difference if:

 

A customer walks over to a dealer 1's booth and asks for the best price on 10 books that he has an interest in. The dealer tells him that he will compile a list and get him the prices in a couple of minutes. The potential customer thanks him and asks him if the dealer could rush the list as he needs to get back to the office in a hurry. The dealer spots the customer at another booth. Dealer 1 sees that a second dealer is working on a list for the same customer so with no direct interaction taking place dealer 1 hands the customer his list.

 

In my imagined scenario, I really can't fault anyone. I'm not saying this is your case but simply conjured up my own scenario.

 

Then again I'm a bit of a novice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait until the customer leaves dealer #2's booth and then give him the list (thumbs u

 

The right thing to do? Yes.

 

But... If the dealer couldn't stand around and wait, and the dealer knew the customer had to rush out then...? I'm not really defending dealer 1 but I wouldn't be excommunicating him either based on MY scenario.

[Zushi-migration]

Nice Flamefest!

I've done business with Pedigree comics and always been happy with the service.....is what Schemell (or whatever his name is) a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed for doing that at your booth, CERTAINLY!

Would I do biz with Pedigree again, I'm sure I will (service was above par) I've had no bad experiences with them.

 

I've also done business with Classics and WWcomics. Again, was very happy when dealing with both (in fact just received my beautiful WW 9.6 woohoo!). Matt has been super easy and nice over the phone and the services he provided me in pressing/slabbing were top notch. I would certainly do biz with again! would I bid on one of his auctions...NOT! That's okay with me, I gather the information here and it helps me to decide how I want to deal with each dealer/service provider.

 

Now, I have also had 3 experiences with other (praised or deemed exceptional) known dealers where I was very very unhappy (actually 2 unhappy and 1 I felt was very abrasive). One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

Anyways, it's great to read stuff on hear to educate but, I dont believe it should dictate. If it does for you great, I just like to make my own educated decisions and give people a chance.

 

 

[Green]

[Park]

Nice Flamefest!

I've done business with Pedigree comics and always been happy with the service.....is what Schemell (or whatever his name is) a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed for doing that at your booth, CERTAINLY!

Would I do biz with Pedigree again, I'm sure I will (service was above par) I've had no bad experiences with them.

 

I've also done business with Classics and WWcomics. Again, was very happy when dealing with both (in fact just received my beautiful WW 9.6 woohoo!). Matt has been super easy and nice over the phone and the services he provided me in pressing/slabbing were top notch. I would certainly do biz with again! would I bid on one of his auctions...NOT! That's okay with me, I gather the information here and it helps me to decide how I want to deal with each dealer/service provider.

 

Now, I have also had 3 experiences with other (praised or deemed exceptional) known dealers where I was very very unhappy (actually 2 unhappy and 1 I felt was very abrasive). One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

Anyways, it's great to read stuff on hear to educate but, I dont believe it should dictate. If it does for you great, I just like to make my own educated decisions and give people a chance.

 

 

Maybe if all the buyers in this hobby would stop buying from unethical like Schmell, there wouldn't be any unethical like Schmell in this hobby.

 

And by unethical, I mean disbarred as a lawyer for playing games with other people's money, trying to get a known Ewert trimmed book by CGC after he was informed that it was a Ewert book and of course the impetus for this thread.

 

I sure am glad that you have had no bad experiences with him though.

 

[USArmyParatrooper]

One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

That would have pissed me off as well. What self respecting man would drive a British car?

 

 

 

[Flaming_Telepath]

Nice Flamefest!

I've done business with Pedigree comics and always been happy with the service.....is what Schemell (or whatever his name is) a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed for doing that at your booth, CERTAINLY!

Would I do biz with Pedigree again, I'm sure I will (service was above par) I've had no bad experiences with them.

 

I've also done business with Classics and WWcomics. Again, was very happy when dealing with both (in fact just received my beautiful WW 9.6 woohoo!). Matt has been super easy and nice over the phone and the services he provided me in pressing/slabbing were top notch. I would certainly do biz with again! would I bid on one of his auctions...NOT! That's okay with me, I gather the information here and it helps me to decide how I want to deal with each dealer/service provider.

 

Now, I have also had 3 experiences with other (praised or deemed exceptional) known dealers where I was very very unhappy (actually 2 unhappy and 1 I felt was very abrasive). One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

Anyways, it's great to read stuff on hear to educate but, I dont believe it should dictate. If it does for you great, I just like to make my own educated decisions and give people a chance.

 

 

Maybe if all the buyers in this hobby would stop buying from unethical like Schmell, there wouldn't be any unethical like Schmell in this hobby.

 

And by unethical, I mean disbarred as a lawyer for playing games with other people's money, trying to get a known Ewert trimmed book by CGC after he was informed that it was a Ewert book and of course the impetus for this thread.

 

I sure am glad that you have had no bad experiences with him though.

 

 

This.

 

Although you did forget falsifying sales data submitted to GPA in order to 'protect the market'.

[USArmyParatrooper]

This.

 

Although you did forget falsifying sales data submitted to GPA in order to 'protect the market'.

 

THIS is a biggy if true! Do you have a link to the details of this? Did GPA rectify it?

 

How could someone pull that off? I thought they just follow the auctions and report the hammer price.

[comix4fun]

One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

That would have pissed me off as well. What self respecting man would drive a British car?

 

 

 

 

[Park]

One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

That would have pissed me off as well. What self respecting man would drive a British car?

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're on point tonight. Bravo.

[Park]

Nice Flamefest!

I've done business with Pedigree comics and always been happy with the service.....is what Schemell (or whatever his name is) a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed for doing that at your booth, CERTAINLY!

Would I do biz with Pedigree again, I'm sure I will (service was above par) I've had no bad experiences with them.

 

I've also done business with Classics and WWcomics. Again, was very happy when dealing with both (in fact just received my beautiful WW 9.6 woohoo!). Matt has been super easy and nice over the phone and the services he provided me in pressing/slabbing were top notch. I would certainly do biz with again! would I bid on one of his auctions...NOT! That's okay with me, I gather the information here and it helps me to decide how I want to deal with each dealer/service provider.

 

Now, I have also had 3 experiences with other (praised or deemed exceptional) known dealers where I was very very unhappy (actually 2 unhappy and 1 I felt was very abrasive). One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

Anyways, it's great to read stuff on hear to educate but, I dont believe it should dictate. If it does for you great, I just like to make my own educated decisions and give people a chance.

 

 

Maybe if all the buyers in this hobby would stop buying from unethical like Schmell, there wouldn't be any unethical like Schmell in this hobby.

 

And by unethical, I mean disbarred as a lawyer for playing games with other people's money, trying to get a known Ewert trimmed book by CGC after he was informed that it was a Ewert book and of course the impetus for this thread.

 

I sure am glad that you have had no bad experiences with him though.

 

 

This.

 

Although you did forget falsifying sales data submitted to GPA in order to 'protect the market'.

 

Forgive me.

 

Doesn't he fart around with the auctions at his site as well or was that just hearsay?

[Zushi-migration]

I'd love to hear more about the GPA data as well if possible. GPA needs to be somewhat responsible for the accuracy of their data as well. GPA doesnt decide what I pay for something I want, for this exact possible reason.

[Flaming_Telepath]

Nice Flamefest!

I've done business with Pedigree comics and always been happy with the service.....is what Schemell (or whatever his name is) a person_who_is_obnoxiously_self-impressed for doing that at your booth, CERTAINLY!

Would I do biz with Pedigree again, I'm sure I will (service was above par) I've had no bad experiences with them.

 

I've also done business with Classics and WWcomics. Again, was very happy when dealing with both (in fact just received my beautiful WW 9.6 woohoo!). Matt has been super easy and nice over the phone and the services he provided me in pressing/slabbing were top notch. I would certainly do biz with again! would I bid on one of his auctions...NOT! That's okay with me, I gather the information here and it helps me to decide how I want to deal with each dealer/service provider.

 

Now, I have also had 3 experiences with other (praised or deemed exceptional) known dealers where I was very very unhappy (actually 2 unhappy and 1 I felt was very abrasive). One dealer actually said to my face, "well shouldnt you be driving a Bentley then?" when I was talking to him about what I collect and my collection(trying to see if he had anything I needed). Needless to say they wont receive a penny from me ever.

 

Anyways, it's great to read stuff on hear to educate but, I dont believe it should dictate. If it does for you great, I just like to make my own educated decisions and give people a chance.

 

 

Maybe if all the buyers in this hobby would stop buying from unethical like Schmell, there wouldn't be any unethical like Schmell in this hobby.

 

And by unethical, I mean disbarred as a lawyer for playing games with other people's money, trying to get a known Ewert trimmed book by CGC after he was informed that it was a Ewert book and of course the impetus for this thread.

 

I sure am glad that you have had no bad experiences with him though.

 

 

This.

 

Although you did forget falsifying sales data submitted to GPA in order to 'protect the market'.

 

Forgive me.

 

Doesn't he fart around with the auctions at his site as well or was that just hearsay?

 

Well, he does encourage consignors to have their friends shill bid on their items...this from Arex Crooke, who received the 'advice' directly.

[goldust40]

I'd love to hear more about the GPA data as well if possible. GPA needs to be somewhat responsible for the accuracy of their data as well. GPA doesnt decide what I pay for something I want for this exact possible reason.

 

GPA is responsible and completely open about where and how it sources its data. And no-one is suggesting that you use the site as a barometer for anything.