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Moderns that are heating up on ebay!
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Harbinger #1 CGC 9.8 @ $405 & 21 bids. :o

New Mutants #87 CGC 9.8 @ $170 & 12 bids.

Deadpool #1 (1997) CGC 9.8 @ $150 & 3 bids.

 

Time to submit my Harbinger??!!??

 

Not at all.

 

VH1 books are at the bottom cycle in their valuations, pretty much all across-the-board. There was an overwhelming sentiment the relaunch would increase demand and value for the originals, the opposite happened.

 

 

Hmmmm.

 

So say that mine is a 9.8 (no clue if it is), raw it's what, like $50-$80?

 

Wouldn't it be worth it for the $200 price jump, or more??

 

Or are you saying "that's it", as in, that $200-$400 price is going to go down significantly?

 

Well there's been a lot of discussion that with the 'softening' in grading of Harbinger 1 over the years, a 9.8 is a bit more common. Not to sound like a , but under these old standards with CGC it is very unlikely your book would grade 9.8. Check the census, that's why the first few copies sold for over 2k. Then it churned down in and around $1,000, eventually sliding to $500, before now settling where it is now, around $400 mark. It has never hit $200 (aside from maybe one fluke sale).

 

I would agree that at $400 or so, it's not that bad of a purchase (I personally don't collect slabs), it more than likely won't go much lower, the floor is in - but the upside is very limited as well.

Super unlikely it will get back to $1k. But I digress; I've already beaten this subject to death on the VF boards.

 

If there's a thread on moderns that are cooling off (good time to buy), throw a dart at most VH1 books, and even some of the HTF Acclaims.

 

No, my question came down to if it was a good idea to get my raw copy graded if it has 9.8 potential.

 

At these prices, I wouldn't bother, unless you want it for your collection. My point earlier was that before CGC loosened their grading standards, Harbinger 1 was a book almost impossible to get in 9.8, mostly due to common defects on each copy. Even very adept graders subbed many books they thought were 9.8, only to come back 9.4-9.6. If you want the answer of a broader audience, go to the VF forums...there's a specific thread following just sales of Harby 1 9.8 (up to about 50 pages in length).

 

Okay, so then, if I understand correctly:

 

-Raw's go for ~$50

 

-CGC 9.8 goes for ~$250

 

-Grading standards are looser now (i.e. better chance of getting a 9.8).

 

-Grading costs+shipping ~$40

 

-Prices are reasonably stable, and aren't going to go a lot lower

 

 

Isn't it a no brainer to get it graded???

 

How about you visit that thread that I suggested, and retype these comments there.

Do you have the link for that? Couldn't find the page.

 

I'll answer you here....

 

If you have a 9.8 candidate of Harbinger 1 it is a no brainer to slab it. You are doing the world a favor by protecting a rare thing.

 

But, there's a catch.. It's a no brainer if you pre-screen. On a straight sub H1 is always, always dangerous. Even for someone like me who has had hundreds of copies pass through my hands. There's a reason it was once selling for much more and we still only have 100-ish on the census. Pricewise, right now a 9.6 is borderline and a 9.4 is break-even.

 

On the other hand, any serious increase in interest in pre-unity Valiant will send things crazy. It's a big IF but not out of the question. I would not sell my H1 9.8 right now, I only see upside.

 

 

 

 

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On the other hand, any serious increase in interest in pre-unity Valiant will send things crazy. It's a big IF but not out of the question. I would not sell my H1 9.8 right now, I only see upside.

 

 

I have nothing to add other than I cant agree more. Unless you really need the money I wouldnt be selling right now

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I'll answer you here....

 

If you have a 9.8 candidate of Harbinger 1 it is a no brainer to slab it. You are doing the world a favor by protecting a rare thing.

 

But, there's a catch.. It's a no brainer if you pre-screen. On a straight sub H1 is always, always dangerous. Even for someone like me who has had hundreds of copies pass through my hands. There's a reason it was once selling for much more and we still only have 100-ish on the census. Pricewise, right now a 9.6 is borderline and a 9.4 is break-even.

 

On the other hand, any serious increase in interest in pre-unity Valiant will send things crazy. It's a big IF but not out of the question. I would not sell my H1 9.8 right now, I only see upside.

:applause:

 

Telling someone a high-grade Harbinger #1 isn't worth submitting into The CGC is missing something. If a $50 raw can become a $300-$400 slabbed beauty with a $40 investment, it's not a deep analysis what to do.

 

But like Chris recommended, make sure you really have a 9.8 candidate. Harbinger #1 is a tough one with those spine splits and staple area cracks due to the paper and the third staple used on the first issue.

 

Has anyone posted pictures of one of these super-soft Harbinger 1s? What is getting by CGC that they are not calling out?

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Extremely low print run.

 

So are a lot of comics though. What's the other factor(s)?

 

I.E. No heat on these, the 10 lowest print on the list:

 

Drew Hayes Poison Elves 3 $2.99 Ape 3,562

Executive Assistant Assassins 12 $3.99 Aspen 3,408

Aspen Splash 2013 Swimsuit Spectacular Anniversary Ed $3.99 Aspen 3,310

Sesame Street 1 $3.99 Ape 3,175

Betty & Veronica 266 $2.99 Archie 3,122

Legend of Oz The Wicked West Ongoing 8 $3.50 Big Dog 3,057

Legend of Oz Scarecrow 2 $3.50 Big Dog 2,956

Knights of The Dinner Table 199 $5.99 Kenzer 2,843

Kevin Keller 9 $2.99 Archie 2,479

Life With Archie 30 $3.99 Archie 2,412

 

There is no heat because the above books are all garbage.

Another 'burning hot' book for 3 days, and then it will go 'poof' like all the others.

 

 

I'd keep my eye on those Archie's :whistle:

 

And the Sesame Streets are the 1st comic to ever have those characters.

 

What about the FCBD issue? Are there different characters in the #1?

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Extremely low print run.

 

So are a lot of comics though. What's the other factor(s)?

 

I.E. No heat on these, the 10 lowest print on the list:

 

Drew Hayes Poison Elves 3 $2.99 Ape 3,562

Executive Assistant Assassins 12 $3.99 Aspen 3,408

Aspen Splash 2013 Swimsuit Spectacular Anniversary Ed $3.99 Aspen 3,310

Sesame Street 1 $3.99 Ape 3,175

Betty & Veronica 266 $2.99 Archie 3,122

Legend of Oz The Wicked West Ongoing 8 $3.50 Big Dog 3,057

Legend of Oz Scarecrow 2 $3.50 Big Dog 2,956

Knights of The Dinner Table 199 $5.99 Kenzer 2,843

Kevin Keller 9 $2.99 Archie 2,479

Life With Archie 30 $3.99 Archie 2,412

 

There is no heat because the above books are all garbage.

Another 'burning hot' book for 3 days, and then it will go 'poof' like all the others.

 

 

I'd keep my eye on those Archie's :whistle:

 

And the Sesame Streets are the 1st comic to ever have those characters.

 

What about the FCBD issue? Are there different characters in the #1?

 

If anyone ever cared., it would probably be like The Sixth Guns FCBD & #1.

 

They might have come out on the same day. I can't remember. I'm just going by what it said in Previews.

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Extremely low print run.

 

So are a lot of comics though. What's the other factor(s)?

 

I.E. No heat on these, the 10 lowest print on the list:

 

Drew Hayes Poison Elves 3 $2.99 Ape 3,562

Executive Assistant Assassins 12 $3.99 Aspen 3,408

Aspen Splash 2013 Swimsuit Spectacular Anniversary Ed $3.99 Aspen 3,310

Sesame Street 1 $3.99 Ape 3,175

Betty & Veronica 266 $2.99 Archie 3,122

Legend of Oz The Wicked West Ongoing 8 $3.50 Big Dog 3,057

Legend of Oz Scarecrow 2 $3.50 Big Dog 2,956

Knights of The Dinner Table 199 $5.99 Kenzer 2,843

Kevin Keller 9 $2.99 Archie 2,479

Life With Archie 30 $3.99 Archie 2,412

 

There is no heat because the above books are all garbage.

Another 'burning hot' book for 3 days, and then it will go 'poof' like all the others.

 

 

I'd keep my eye on those Archie's :whistle:

 

And the Sesame Streets are the 1st comic to ever have those characters.

For anyone who cares, Marvel Super Special 32 has some of the Sesame Street characters first appearances. Looks like all the best are there with one exception.

 

MarvelSuperSpecial032page58firstseasamestcharacters_zps3f916d71.jpg

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hey are you actually able to sell orc stain #7 for 17 bucks? Cause I see copies on the shelf everywhere.....just curious, I know the earlier issues have legs cause they don't stay up on my ebay for long.......

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These were $11.99 including shipping on their sire. I bet it brings at least that lol

 

$25 international shipping, what a joke.

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These were $11.99 including shipping on their sire. I bet it brings at least that lol

 

$25 international shipping, what a joke.

 

That's what it costs, dingus :P Most unfortunate, yes, but a PM flat rate international envelope is $24.95. And if you want a high grade book to arrive in HG condition in any decent amount of time, you need to pack it well, and give it priority handling.

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I put in my postal code and it shows 10 dollars shipping to Ontario. did he quote you 25?

 

That's not actually the seller quoting the shipping. If you use ebay's international shipping program it does the shipping charges.

 

The way it works is the seller get's paid their normal domestic shipping charges and ships the item to a shipping center in Kentucky. Then that center is the one that through ebay collects the international postage charges and disperses the item.

 

Been using it for a month now and love it. No need to deal with forms or extra shipping charges that Ebay can charge me fees for.

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ahh. ive delt with it too and its garbage. its hidden charges that cause friction between the seller and buyer. my 1st time I asked the sepper why I was charged 32 dollars for shipping for 1 magazine!! and he had no clue, he only charged 10. ebay keeps the rest, absolute garbage. I now ask before hand if they use this and if they do, sellers will not use this option and ship direct or we just don't do a sale.

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ahh. ive delt with it too and its garbage. its hidden charges that cause friction between the seller and buyer. my 1st time I asked the sepper why I was charged 32 dollars for shipping for 1 magazine!! and he had no clue, he only charged 10. ebay keeps the rest, absolute garbage. I now ask before hand if they use this and if they do, sellers will not use this option and ship direct or we just don't do a sale.

 

+1000

I won't buy from any seller who has this ridiculously expensive service.

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