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Aweandlorder

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near
The print run estimate has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard to buy a book. Makes no sense.

 

They usually get me to buy WHEN THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! tho

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RockMyAmadeus

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Looks like an 8.0 to me.

 

The description in that auction is pretty much as well honed of a swindle as you can get, without being downright criminal.

 

Key points being a two fold double whammy, bait and switch sucker punch:

 

The seller states he is not a professional grader, so he gets to opt out of actually assigning a grade to the book....initially, drawing in the suckers with the bait of basically saying that he doesn't know what he's doing.

 

Then he adds in the switch of "This book will benefit from a press" to nail it home.

 

Seeing as all of the spine ticks break color to one degree or another, a press will have a minor effect on the book.

 

Best case scenario is a press bumps it from an 8.0 to an 8.5....

 

 

 

My take is that the seller knew exactly what he was doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a person who spends a bit of time hunting and submitting, as well as selling raw. And after reviewing the scans, I can say without a doubt that this book will benefit from a press. It may not become a 9.4/9.6, but you can increase the eye appeal and presentation 100%. The book is typical wavy modern looking junk, straighten it out and the eye appeal will shoot up.

 

There is no "snakeoil salesman" tactics here, it is a typical listing for what Ebay has become. I don't know why someone dropped that kind of coin, but hey, it's not my money.

 

And, of course, THIS is why these "estimated print run" arguments are happening:

 

(From that listing) "The estimated print run for this book has been said to be less than 773."

 

Says who? And where did that oddly specific number come from?

 

You guessed it! Dividing the number reported by Comichron by 75!

 

AMAZING!

 

:ohnoez:

 

Think it doesn't matter? People are using these "estimates" (which amount to lies, in the end) to SELL THEIR BOOKS.

 

If I estimate that every book I have for sale has an "estimated" print run of 93 copies only, would anyone be comfortable doing business with me? Why not? After all, it's just an "estimate"...right? And ALL "estimates" are equal and valid...right?

 

It's wildly_fanciful_statement is what it. wildly_fanciful_statement invented by con artists, and repeated by the ignorant or complicit, for nothing other than $$$$.

 

We're being lied to our faces for profit, and many of you don't care, and worse, some of you insult and malign those who refute it, rolling your eyes and complaining that it doesn't matter. You just want to believe. Hell, one of the foremost statisticians on this board has bought into the fiction, so why not?

 

meh

 

where's the spoiler tags?

 

 

....................... ^ Here ^

 

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Old Fashion PB and J

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near
The print run estimate has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard to buy a book. Makes no sense.

 

They usually get me to buy WHEN THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! tho

Caps lock got me hitting the BIN like whaaaaat
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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near
The print run estimate has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard to buy a book. Makes no sense.

 

They usually get me to buy WHEN THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! tho

 

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near

 

Nah its new book day. Time for people to start posting how many copies of each book they got from each store they visited today.

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Old Fashion PB and J

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near
The print run estimate has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard to buy a book. Makes no sense.

 

They usually get me to buy WHEN THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! tho

 

4607c99d-baff-4fff-be6b-58d8d522f1dc_zps8cvma4ju.jpg

Accurate AF
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RockMyAmadeus

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near

 

Nah its new book day. Time for people to start posting how many copies of each book they got from each store they visited today.

 

 

Thus hurting the creators (and retailers) they're making their potential money off of.

 

^^

 

 

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Aweandlorder

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near

 

Nah its new book day. Time for people to start posting how many copies of each book they got from each store they visited today.

 

Ahhh, forgot about that, you're right!

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I estimate that this thread will go into print run estimates mode once more, estimating that the weekend is near
The print run estimate has to be the weakest reason I have ever heard to buy a book. Makes no sense.

 

They usually get me to buy WHEN THEY TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!! tho

Caps lock got me hitting the BIN like whaaaaat

 

Back in the day, that dude on the home shopping channel almost had me reaching for the phone on more than one occasion when he was on there SHOUTING about the RARE LIMITED EDITION COLLECTIBLE COINS they were selling!

 

I should've bought some.... :sorry: (not really, I have no idea what he was selling or how they did since then)

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Can anyone find a spoof of this sort of thing.. I think it may have been a SNL skit but it could have been "In Living Color" or a show like that. The guys were selling something on TV and had a "fire sale" and actually appeared to burn the place down... and then the sale ended and they put out the fire and moved onto the next item. It was brilliantly funny...can't find it anywhere!

 

 

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Can anyone find a spoof of this sort of thing.. I think it may have been a SNL skit but it could have been "In Living Color" or a show like that. The guys were selling something on TV and had a "fire sale" and actually appeared to burn the place down... and then the sale ended and they put out the fire and moved onto the next item. It was brilliantly funny...can't find it anywhere!

 

 

SNL

 

 

SNL Will Ferrell as Don West

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Aweandlorder

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Can anyone find a spoof of this sort of thing.. I think it may have been a SNL skit but it could have been "In Living Color" or a show like that. The guys were selling something on TV and had a "fire sale" and actually appeared to burn the place down... and then the sale ended and they put out the fire and moved onto the next item. It was brilliantly funny...can't find it anywhere!

 

 

Matt Foley comes to mind

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Kyle R.

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Can anyone find a spoof of this sort of thing.. I think it may have been a SNL skit but it could have been "In Living Color" or a show like that. The guys were selling something on TV and had a "fire sale" and actually appeared to burn the place down... and then the sale ended and they put out the fire and moved onto the next item. It was brilliantly funny...can't find it anywhere!

 

 

SNL

 

 

SNL Will Ferrell as Don West

 

:roflmao:

 

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