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[ItsJustRyan]

[ThoseBackPages]

[gaz2810i]

For the record, I didn't even know about Hulk44's affinity for Revival, and I wasn't "targeting" a specific buyer. But...anyone that says they would sell the 10.0 or make the 10.0 public knowledge before trying to move the 9.9 is lying to themselves (and to us). The only smart move is to try to sell the 9.9 when it is still widely accepted that the 9.9 is the highest graded copy. As soon as the first 10.0 surfaces then that selling point is out the window.

 

And yes, I released Hulk44 from the purchase of the 9.9 when we agreed to terms on the 10.0.

 

For the record, I'm not suggesting you did anything nefarious. You are simply a sharp player. You have proven that time and time again. The best on these boards...I ain't sitting across from you at the poker table, that's for sure!

 

My advice for future Hulk44s (and feel free to take it or leave it): Know whom you're dealing with. In Court's case, he's a seller, first and foremost. Anything he has, it's just a matter of "when" and "how much". The 10.0 was meant to be sold, no doubt about it. The only question is "how much?" He has nothing to lose by asking for $7500. You, however, have a lot to lose by spending $7500. So your next thought should be "who is my competition and what is he willing to spend?" That's the key...you only need to pay one increment more than what the other guy's willing to spend. Did you have any competition at $7500? Sorry, but I highly doubt it.

 

As an OA collector, I know I have to pay up to pry things loose from black hole collections. I don't really have a choice when it comes to one-of-a-kind items. The collector on the other side has all the power since he doesn't care if I buy or not...he's not looking to sell. When dealing with sellers/dealers/flippers, though, know that they are as eager to sell as you are to buy. Even one-of-a-kind items like OA and (arguably) 10.0 slabs. And we all know who the sellers are here. Therefore, as a buyer, you do have some say regarding the transaction. The balance of power is more even.

 

Hope that all makes sense.

 

Very Well said (thumbs u

[Hulk44]

This makes sense to me: When I see something I want, I get it, That's it. The 10 was all I ever talked about when I originally bought these books, and Poof , there it was. Did Court have me from the beginning, yes he did, he had that 10. I was so exited to see that 9.9 SS, my mind escaped me and forgot to look at CGC census, but would it of mattered, not really. Once I saw it, I would of continued to buy up all the 9.9's out there. Once Court came out and said he had it, I actually was SO SO HAPPY, I didnt care, and I still don't care about the money. My friends, I have seen many people Die, and death can come anytime, anywhere, and from anything. Enjoy your time in life, fullfil your dreams, and get everything you want in life, before you know it, we"ll all be gone. Did I over pay, sure I did, but I got what I want, and the Bait/Switch, if thats how you want to se it, I am glad I was part of it, and thank you COURT for making my day. We are all going out to dinner at 7pm to celebrate..Jst keep this quite, if the family found out how much I spent AGAIN, I think I would be SHOT...

[Hulk44]

Oh, and the Dinner is to celebrate a Made up story at work .SHHHHH

 

 

 

[roastedbagel]

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 2013 by roastedbagel

[roastedbagel]

Oh, and the Dinner is to celebrate a Made up story at work .SHHHHH

 

 

 

 

Dude don't worry about what ANYONE in here says. You paid what you wanted to pay, who knows, in 5 years you might be able to sell that for triple. Who knows.

[Chiefs1313]

For the record, I didn't even know about Hulk44's affinity for Revival, and I wasn't "targeting" a specific buyer. But...anyone that says they would sell the 10.0 or make the 10.0 public knowledge before trying to move the 9.9 is lying to themselves (and to us). The only smart move is to try to sell the 9.9 when it is still widely accepted that the 9.9 is the highest graded copy. As soon as the first 10.0 surfaces then that selling point is out the window.

 

And yes, I released Hulk44 from the purchase of the 9.9 when we agreed to terms on the 10.0.

 

For the record, I'm not suggesting you did anything nefarious. You are simply a sharp player. You have proven that time and time again. The best on these boards...I ain't sitting across from you at the poker table, that's for sure!

 

My advice for future Hulk44s (and feel free to take it or leave it): Know whom you're dealing with. In Court's case, he's a seller, first and foremost. Anything he has, it's just a matter of "when" and "how much". The 10.0 was meant to be sold, no doubt about it. The only question is "how much?" He has nothing to lose by asking for $7500. You, however, have a lot to lose by spending $7500. So your next thought should be "who is my competition and what is he willing to spend?" That's the key...you only need to pay one increment more than what the other guy's willing to spend. Did you have any competition at $7500? Sorry, but I highly doubt it.

 

As an OA collector, I know I have to pay up to pry things loose from black hole collections. I don't really have a choice when it comes to one-of-a-kind items. The collector on the other side has all the power since he doesn't care if I buy or not...he's not looking to sell. When dealing with sellers/dealers/flippers, though, know that they are as eager to sell as you are to buy. Even one-of-a-kind items like OA and (arguably) 10.0 slabs. And we all know who the sellers are here. Therefore, as a buyer, you do have some say regarding the transaction. The balance of power is more even.

 

Hope that all makes sense.

 

Very good point!

 

Congrats hulk44

[Chiefs1313]

Oh, and the Dinner is to celebrate a Made up story at work .SHHHHH

 

 

 

 

What kind of work do you do? I'm sure I'm in the wrong field

[Hulk44]

Oh, and the Dinner is to celebrate a Made up story at work .SHHHHH

 

 

 

 

Dude don't worry about what ANYONE in here says. You paid what you wanted to pay, who knows, in 5 years you might be able to sell that for triple. Who knows.

 

Im Not, It's all fun, and your right, you never know..

[cujobyte]

I'ts been interesting reading everyone's comments on this.

 

I think two things have been forgotten though. One Perspective: $7500 is not at all a lot of money to a lot of people out there. I'm not implying it is not a lot of money to Hulk. But Perspective. I watched one lady lose $25,000 at the casino this past week, and another lose $50,000 without the blink of an eye. I play a lot of poker and constantly see people lose $5k-10k in one or two sessions.

 

Perspective.

 

The second thing, and I'm sure I'll get flogged for, but it's worth mentioning, is this particular book (as is with Bedlam) are in their infancy. Seriously Revival's in it's second story arc, and Bedlam hasn't even finished it's first. For you guys who have been with WD from the first or second arc, you more than most should realize my point here. The book has a lot of room to grow.

 

Hulk seems happy with the purchase, and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks. The kids will take pot shots for thinking he over paid, and the rest of us will be left wondering what other markets need exploring.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[N/A]

A couple people have pointed out possible growth. Keep in mind WD grew to these heights after 10 years of growth, over 100 issues and a 3rd season of a Tv show. The price paid is what the book could possibly grow to.

[Hulk44]

I'ts been interesting reading everyone's comments on this.

 

I think two things have been forgotten though. One Perspective: $7500 is not at all a lot of money to a lot of people out there. I'm not implying it is not a lot of money to Hulk. But Perspective. I watched one lady lose $25,000 at the casino this past week, and another lose $50,000 without the blink of an eye. I play a lot of poker and constantly see people lose $5k-10k in one or two sessions.

 

Perspective.

 

The second thing, and I'm sure I'll get flogged for, but it's worth mentioning, is this particular book (as is with Bedlam) are in their infancy. Seriously Revival's in it's second story arc, and Bedlam hasn't even finished it's first. For you guys who have been with WD from the first or second arc, you more than most should realize my point here. The book has a lot of room to grow.

 

Hulk seems happy with the purchase, and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks. The kids will take pot shots for thinking he over paid, and the rest of us will be left wondering what other markets need exploring.

 

Nice Report here...

 

All in all guys let's enjoy the ride, if the ship sinks on me and I lose everything, so be it, if the ship sails to Disney Land, well, then that's a different case. At least you guys know you owns one of the the 10's out there, thanks to COURT...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jjeanius]

Keep in mind WD grew to these heights after 10 years of growth, over 100 issues and a 3rd season of a Tv show.

 

Yes, but WD was the trailblazer, and the post-WD comics market is an entirely different animal. It clearly doesn't take much for a book to hit big dollars these days. It does not take a 10-year gestation period for a book to hit $200 - $300 raw, or $600 - $800 in 9.8 (Peter Panzerfaust, Sixth Gun, etc). Everyone is now looking for "the next Walking Dead", and the market is responding accordingly.

[Hulk44]

Keep in mind WD grew to these heights after 10 years of growth, over 100 issues and a 3rd season of a Tv show.

 

Yes, but WD was the trailblazer, and the post-WD comics market is an entirely different animal. It clearly doesn't take much for a book to hit big dollars these days. It does not take a 10-year gestation period for a book to hit $200 - $300 raw, or $600 - $800 in 9.8 (Peter Panzerfaust, Sixth Gun, etc). Everyone is now looking for "the next Walking Dead", and the market is responding accordingly.

 

 

Yes, Exactlly Court, things change so so fast now..

[Nexus]

I'ts been interesting reading everyone's comments on this.

 

I think two things have been forgotten though. One Perspective: $7500 is not at all a lot of money to a lot of people out there. I'm not implying it is not a lot of money to Hulk. But Perspective. I watched one lady lose $25,000 at the casino this past week, and another lose $50,000 without the blink of an eye. I play a lot of poker and constantly see people lose $5k-10k in one or two sessions.

 

Perspective.

 

The second thing, and I'm sure I'll get flogged for, but it's worth mentioning, is this particular book (as is with Bedlam) are in their infancy. Seriously Revival's in it's second story arc, and Bedlam hasn't even finished it's first. For you guys who have been with WD from the first or second arc, you more than most should realize my point here. The book has a lot of room to grow.

 

Hulk seems happy with the purchase, and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what anyone else really thinks. The kids will take pot shots for thinking he over paid, and the rest of us will be left wondering what other markets need exploring.

 

All true. Everyone's financial standing is different. Interesting, though, that you are comparing this situation to losing big at the poker table:P

 

As well, any of these hot new Image titles could become the next WD. But only in the sense that anything's possible. Not the best odds, imo. Will boardies still be fans if story/art is of high quality, but the title flames out as a speculative play?

 

Just to clarify, I didn't say what I think the book is worth or what it may be worth in the future. My only point is that Hulk44 didn't *have* to pay $7500 for this book yesterday. If he's willing to pay anything a seller asks, that's his right. But not everyone needs to do the same. That's all I was trying to say.

[Hulk44]

The only Problem I have is with you stating " That Hulk44 didn't have to pay $7500" ... My problem with that is : If I wait, I could lose the book.. Another deal could be struck at any minute here, we are talking about the only 10 CGC SS out there..What happens if I blink, poof it's gone..Yes, I coulda of waited and maybe, just maybe got the book for less, but another deal could of been struck, or a buy it now on Ebay..There are many people out there with deeper pockets then me, do I risk it, NO WAY, not me...SO, I pay an extra $2500, It doesn't bother me, I got the book I want, and if I blinked, I coulda lost everything..

 

Poker, funny, I am a huge Gambler, have a sports acount and everything. My game is CRAPS, LOVE craps, get free rooms all the time in AC...SO yes, I have seen people lose big time, I read the story with the $50,000 loss without a blink of an eye, I saw a WHALE once come to the table, Never saw a WHALE before, WHALE meaning this guy has millions to burn, he freaken lost $450,000 in a matter of 30 minutes...Just funny when you posted the Poker story, I am a Gambler, Big Time...

[Nexus]

Keep in mind WD grew to these heights after 10 years of growth, over 100 issues and a 3rd season of a Tv show.

 

Yes, but WD was the trailblazer, and the post-WD comics market is an entirely different animal. It clearly doesn't take much for a book to hit big dollars these days. It does not take a 10-year gestation period for a book to hit $200 - $300 raw, or $600 - $800 in 9.8 (Peter Panzerfaust, Sixth Gun, etc). Everyone is now looking for "the next Walking Dead", and the market is responding accordingly.

 

What you are describing is irrational exuberance. Everyone IS chasing the "next WALKING DEAD", when the prospects of another WD are extremely slim.

 

By all means, collectors should spend whatever they want to spend, collect whatever they want to collect. They just shouldn't expect to recoup, let alone profit from, the money spent. I'm speaking of collectors...the day traders will do fine.

[Vikingreed]

Am I weird in that I would rather have a blue 10.0 over a 10.0 yellow?