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How much do printer creases detract from a CGC grade?

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RedRaven

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Just wondering if any of you guys can answer this question generally rather than for a specific case.

 

Also, as Im not sure if printer crease is a universal term for the sort of defect which I use it (the term) for I shall elaborate.

 

RedRavens dictionary defines as....

Printer Crease: extremely fine crease in a comics cover stock which occured when the stock was placed on the roll. Does not result in a color break as the crease existed before the print process was applied.

 

 

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Warren Oates

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Just wondering if any of you guys can answer this question generally rather than for a specific case.

 

Also, as Im not sure if printer crease is a universal term for the sort of defect which I use it (the term) for I shall elaborate.

 

RedRavens dictionary defines as....

Printer Crease: extremely fine crease in a comics cover stock which occured when the stock was placed on the roll. Does not result in a color break as the crease existed before the print process was applied.

 

 

9.8 and lower I don't think it does.

 

Also I think wrong forum.

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Topnotchman

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Depends on where the printer crease is at, and how big. If its going right through Punishers head it can knock the grade down a notch. If its small on on the lower back cover corner it probably will not affect the grade.

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Tony S

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Not as much as it should

 

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I believe previous posts are correct and it doesn't affect the CGC grade much at all. But when buying raw books I usually pass on this defect. It's the same way with off-center (poorly justified) covers. A little bit of white along the spine is OK. 1/4" or more I find less appealing. But I've seen lots of 9.6's and some 9.8's with poor justification of the cover.

 

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Brian48

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I have a Brave and the Bold 86 with a 9.6 grade. Its got a huge crease practically going from right to left on the back. My Brave Bold 100 is a 9.4, but it has a 4 inch crease on the front.

 

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Jeffro.

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Not as much as it should

 

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I believe previous posts are correct and it doesn't affect the CGC grade much at all. But when buying raw books I usually pass on this defect. It's the same way with off-center (poorly justified) covers. A little bit of white along the spine is OK. 1/4" or more I find less appealing. But I've seen lots of 9.6's and some 9.8's with poor justification of the cover.

 

I couldn't agree more. I wish CGC took these into account when grading. Yes, it's production related but it's still a defect and a defect that is, imo, uglier, than slightly off centered books.

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seanfingh

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Not as much as it should

 

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I believe previous posts are correct and it doesn't affect the CGC grade much at all. But when buying raw books I usually pass on this defect. It's the same way with off-center (poorly justified) covers. A little bit of white along the spine is OK. 1/4" or more I find less appealing. But I've seen lots of 9.6's and some 9.8's with poor justification of the cover.

 

I couldn't agree more. I wish CGC took these into account when grading. Yes, it's production related but it's still a defect and a defect that is, imo, uglier, than slightly off centered books.

 

Note to self: Send the King Kong nutsack creased Giant Sized Conan 1 to Jeffro.

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Mjolnir!

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Not as much as it should

 

Best comment ^^

I believe previous posts are correct and it doesn't affect the CGC grade much at all. But when buying raw books I usually pass on this defect. It's the same way with off-center (poorly justified) covers. A little bit of white along the spine is OK. 1/4" or more I find less appealing. But I've seen lots of 9.6's and some 9.8's with poor justification of the cover.

 

I couldn't agree more. I wish CGC took these into account when grading. Yes, it's production related but it's still a defect and a defect that is, imo, uglier, than slightly off centered books.

 

Note to self: Send the King Kong nutsack creased Giant Sized Conan 1 to Jeffro.

 

lol!

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fantastic_four

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Depends on where the printer crease is at, and how big. If its going right through Punishers head it can knock the grade down a notch. If its small on on the lower back cover corner it probably will not affect the grade.

 

You'd think that would be the case, but we've posted examples in the past that disprove it being factored in that way by CGC. Greggy posted a few books with creases that went from the top cover all the way to the bottom edge right down the central part of the book that CGC gave the 9.8 grade to.

 

CGC overlooks production defects waaaaaaaay too much in their grading. :eek:

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