NIGHTCRAWLER Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If Riley gets to the point where his interior pages are selling for $1300 a pop, I'm sure he'll be happy. On a more serious note, I can understand the need to flip given the hype around the book at the moment - but I can't help but be amused at that price. Well, all power to him! This isn't flipping! Our resident West Virginia Lawyer has fallen on economic hardship during the three weeks he has owned the page, and now he has no choice but to ask 5x what he paid for it so that he can put food on the table! At least, that's what the auction says... Then again, the auction description says a LOT of things, many of which are terribly amusing. ;-) One issue in, and he's trying to flip a single page for more than most Chew covers sell for. Ha. Since you're all talking about me ... I need to sell some stuff to recoup cash I spent on the following: (1) uninsured medical expenses for my mother who was diagnosed with a brain disease; and (2) a House of Delegates race (my younger brother was the candidate, and in case you're wondering my younger brother lost by 122 lousy votes). We'll see what I get for it. Please try your best not to be so rude. Can't you go back to crying about Dre's business model or something? Thanks! 325 shipped? Seriously I missed out on the sale of the pages, so let me help you get some money back while you help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Esq Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Selling something to recoup costs is one thing. Trying to rape someone on a page you bought three weeks ago before the ink is even dry on the page is another. Your listing smacks of dishonesty and a blatant cash grab, and I doubt that you just found out about your brother's campaign three weeks ago after you bought the page. Want your money back? Great. Sell it at cost. I'll get right on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Esq Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 If Riley gets to the point where his interior pages are selling for $1300 a pop, I'm sure he'll be happy. On a more serious note, I can understand the need to flip given the hype around the book at the moment - but I can't help but be amused at that price. Well, all power to him! This isn't flipping! Our resident West Virginia Lawyer has fallen on economic hardship during the three weeks he has owned the page, and now he has no choice but to ask 5x what he paid for it so that he can put food on the table! At least, that's what the auction says... Then again, the auction description says a LOT of things, many of which are terribly amusing. ;-) One issue in, and he's trying to flip a single page for more than most Chew covers sell for. Ha. Since you're all talking about me ... I need to sell some stuff to recoup cash I spent on the following: (1) uninsured medical expenses for my mother who was diagnosed with a brain disease; and (2) a House of Delegates race (my younger brother was the candidate, and in case you're wondering my younger brother lost by 122 lousy votes). We'll see what I get for it. Please try your best not to be so rude. Can't you go back to crying about Dre's business model or something? Thanks! 325 shipped? Seriously I missed out on the sale of the pages, so let me help you get some money back while you help me Thanks but no thanks ... can we please move onto another topic? I'd like to discuss anything but this sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeanius Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 How about the original price of the page + $122? Would that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 i was surprised to see plenty of copies at my LCS this week. i guess i thought it would be more popular then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 i was surprised to see plenty of copies at my LCS this week. i guess i thought it would be more popular then it is. It is popular - just everyones bought worthless variants..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Esq Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 i was surprised to see plenty of copies at my LCS this week. i guess i thought it would be more popular then it is. It is popular - just everyones bought worthless variants..... Irrational / jealous much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicCollectorx19 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? [/quote Chew? Walking dead? Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? Chew? Walking dead? Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga Walking Dead had two variants of issue #1 (Black/White) when released. and even most people dont differentiate between the two (i do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONG Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? [/quote Chew? Walking dead? Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga Neither book was released with any variants let alone five. Reprints are another issue entirely. Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga!¡ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? Struggling tbh. To be clear - again I have had this convo with King Larry before - I have no issue with the odd variant. But not 614 different ones of the same book. I honestly have no idea how many are out there - 15? 20? All this will do is confuse the man in the street, and affect the sales of the "original" product. Larry is a salesman - and a good one.There is nothing here below-board. His product appears to be great. But one a week for 6 months? Waaay too much. This really could do a heck of a lot of damage to new books, and I would be amazed if some companies re-consider allowing their product to be used. Image are going to be really pizzed if they sell 15,000 @$3 and Larry and co sell 2,000 @15+. They will only allow that once or twice I imagine. And you the customer? Your $15 book is worth $1. Have a variant - not 1 a week for 6 months - that is greed pure and simple. Unless people stop buying them. Then it become a pointless exercise and Larry pulls his head in. After buying a small Island probably! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underground44 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Variants are bad for future value when it comes to future newbies who want to go all in. Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? Chew? Walking dead? Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga Walking Dead had two variants of issue #1 (Black/White) when released. and even most people dont differentiate between the two (i do) Walking Dead #1 had NO variants. Even if you think it did it it doesn't matter. It would only be 1 anyway if it had one different cover but It is not a variant.... Full Stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBT Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Selling something to recoup costs is one thing. Trying to rape someone on a page you bought three weeks ago before the ink is even dry on the page is another. Your listing smacks of dishonesty and a blatant cash grab, and I doubt that you just found out about your brother's campaign three weeks ago after you bought the page. Want your money back? Great. Sell it at cost. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-investment-lot-1-100-CGC-9-8-copies-of-27-48-53-CGC-SS-100-/180994173979 October 11th....just sayin. If money is needed so badly to help out...maybe dont buy the OA in the first place? Edited November 9, 2012 by CBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jking3437 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Selling something to recoup costs is one thing. Trying to rape someone on a page you bought three weeks ago before the ink is even dry on the page is another. Your listing smacks of dishonesty and a blatant cash grab, and I doubt that you just found out about your brother's campaign three weeks ago after you bought the page. Want your money back? Great. Sell it at cost. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-investment-lot-1-100-CGC-9-8-copies-of-27-48-53-CGC-SS-100-/180994173979 October 11th....just sayin. If money is needed so badly to help out...maybe dont buy the OA in the first place? Read the description though. Only issue 10 then 32-92 and 97-101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Esq Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Andy, publishers don't care about the secondary market. Bedlam No. 1 is a sellout as are all of the variants, Deadpool No. 1 is a sellout, Bedlam No. 2 will sell out as will the variants. I haven't read Great Pacific, but if its as good a book as others indicate then it is going to sell out. Larry's program is not going to fail nor is it going to interfere with the sales of the regular covers. Clearly you're upset that the 50 or so copies of the regular Bedlam cover you purchased haven't appreciated in value as you had hoped. Don't worry, they will. The print run is not going to be as substantial as Larry predicts. Personally, I don't like it when a publisher permits variants covers for conventions, regional variants, etc. I think it sucks for people like me who aren't aware that this happening and order a bunch of copies of the regular cover. But when the covers are as beautiful as the Forbidden Planet, Third Eye and Phantom variants - I don't mind nearly as much. Yes I prefer for their not to be so many variants. Yes I think its bad for new readers who are discouraged by this kind of thing and many, like yourself, perceive it as a cash grab. But don't hate the player. Hate the game. There is nothing wrong with the retailers who do this and I personally appreciate that the Phantom variant program shows a substantial investment in the book by supporting and promoting it for 6 issues. Yes, I think the program would be more successful if the Phantom variant program created a database that permitted each person to buy two NM copies of each Phantom variant for cover price (2.99 or 3.99 or even 4.99 each), but that's not what Larry and his group of retailers decided to do. Yes it sucks that guys like you who live in another country have to spend top dollar to get these variants and to a less extend it stinks that guys like me can't pick up these books at a reasonable price beceause we don't live in the vicinity of one of the participating retailers. I hope that this changes. It is not going to change because of your rude comments just like these variants (and other variants) aren't going to spontaneously going to become worthless because you bad mouth them. Remember that you attract more with kindness than with rudeness. You should try it. In the case of Bedlam, the Third Eye, Detroit and Forbidden Planet variants are going to be bigger dollar books than the regular cover just like the NYCC and NYCC sketch is going to demand a bigger dollar amount than the regular cover. But people like books that are distributed by the publisher. Take a look at Thief of Theives with it's print run of nearly 20K for the regular issue in comparison to the ICE variant and Comicspro variants if you need empirical evidence. That being said, those variant covers aren't worthless or undesirable. Try and be positive about all the good this program is doing for the artists who are getting exposure and for the creators who are making some extra cash on these books. Please don't obsess about the downside of the program simply because you purchased a boat load of the regular cover. Have some faith in the title that you apparently enjoy, invested in, etc. It's a good book and good work is rewarded by fans on the retailer market and on the secondary market. Please don't be such a Debbie Downer when it comes to these books. The cover to Bedlam No. 2 is simply amazing and may never have been made but for this program. Similarly, I'm thrilled that Charles P, Wilson III got some well deserved exposure and I'm happy that Larry is going to continue to give some well deserved exposure to great artists. Here's hoping that 25% of the people who purchased one or more of Wilson's variant covers went out an ordered a Stuff of Legend trade. As hard as it is, try and look on the bright side. There is a lot of upside to the Phantom variant program. Finally, there's no reason that you or anyone else needs to buy every variant let alone multiple copies of every variant. If you don't want a particular variant,, then don't buy it. There's no requirement that you do. If you want them all, then maybe you can get lucky and find a cool boardie who lives by one of the participating stores to pick you up a cover or a few copies of the Phantom variant covers at their cost. I know I wish I had already been able to do so, but you seem to get along well with the 5 or 6 people who vocally bad mouth me. Maybe one of them will do it for you. I guess what I'm saying is that I wish you would support what people do on the board to help creators, support the success of other board members, etc. After all, it's not a zero sum game. Just because the Phantom and Ghost variant projects are making money doesn't mean that its coming out of your pocket. Believe me there's a lot of fans and a lot of disposable income to go around. Give credit when it is due and wish people the best. I certainly wish you and others who say nasty about me the best because that's the right thing to do. I think if you start doing that that people will do their best. So that's my long winded opinion and you can take it for what it's worth, but please give it some thought before you summarily reject it. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500Club Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Larry is a salesman - and a good one.There is nothing here below-board. His product appears to be great. But one a week for 6 months? Waaay too much. This really could do a heck of a lot of damage to new books It's most likely to dilute the appeal of the Phantom variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jking3437 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's true , it's a lot of variants 26 actually. But If I like the covers I will buy them. If not I'll pass. For instance I have bedlam dead pool and getting great pacific , passing on FF because it's not my thing. To each their one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozad Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Has there ever been a brand new book with 5+ variants of the first issue that went on to mega-money success? Chew? Walking dead? Bazzzzzzzzzzzzzinga One of the funniest, most uneducated posts to appear on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underground44 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 It's true , it's a lot of variants 26 actually. But If I like the covers I will buy them. If not I'll pass. For instance I have bedlam dead pool and getting great pacific , passing on FF because it's not my thing. To each their one In the long run these variants won't help the book succeed IMO. Some of the covers look good but are they worth $40+? Not for me they're not. 1, 2, 3 variants is ok but 26? It's beyond a joke now. Buy what you like and enjoy it but I'm done with any variants in the future if this is what the future holds for Image titles. TWD #100 was the start of something bad as far as variants (and cash grabbing) are concerned. I moved away from the big two publishers because of this BS and now it's starting at Image? I like this book but the variant chase seems to be overshadowing everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
