ThoseBackPages Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 read the book, enjoy the book, if you make money in the future, buy more books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranx Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 yes, but I bought 20 of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeanius Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yeah, so...? I'm not sure how that is relevant. Are you upset because you haven't quadrupled your money yet, and it's already been 4 months now, and you are worried about your $50 investment...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 yes, but I bought 20 of them... Quintuple down and buy 80 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 yes, but I bought 20 of them... what lead you to buy 20 copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter3175 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'll buy them for half of cover because I am such a fan! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 there ya go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujobyte Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yeah, so...? I'm not sure how that is relevant. Are you upset because you haven't quadrupled your money yet, and it's already been 4 months now, and you are worried about your $50 investment...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 This series never really grabbed my interest. I ended up giving a copy away as a secret santa gift along with 9 other comics and this is the one sereis (as well as 'Lookouts') that my recipient said he really liked and would like to keep reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 An abundance of variants doesn't seem to be healthy for books. One or two variants can be great but no more (look at ToT or Saga). When there are 4 or more covers to a #1 its a turn off for me to collect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujobyte Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I totally agree Andy. I love this series, and has a long way to go and grow. For the time being, I'm enjoying scooping up as many copies at around cover as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatMarvelV1 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Andy, I think it's too much of a coincidence in the use of the title Bedlam and the character, the First, as I'm sure you're aware bedlam was a popular name for 'the first' mental asylum - St. Mary's of Bethlehem in London. With Nick Spencer being British he could be aware of this or researched it, so as you speculated before I think 'the First' was the first patient/serial killer to be treated by the doctor.. There is always a chance that he could be related to Filmore or Filmore could have been a disciple or acolyte of 'the First' before his conversion - thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balham's Finest Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Serious question: how did Image leave the future of the story with Larry? I might have missed it somewhere as I'm not a close follower of Bedlam. On release dates - don't forget that Planetary took 11 years to release 27 issues and it's still a fantastic read. Not great for the people who are trying to follow it in monthly form and/or speculate on early issues - but long release dates won't necessarily detract from the longevity of the title. Some stuff is just better read in trade anyway, even if it is released on time - Morning Glories, Manhattan Projects, Walking Dead (if we're talking Image titles). At the moment, the only three titles I'm reading where I feel I've got my money's worth from just reading one book a month are Batman, Batman Inc. and Saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Andy, I think it's too much of a coincidence in the use of the title Bedlam and the character, the First, as I'm sure you're aware bedlam was a popular name for 'the first' mental asylum - St. Mary's of Bethlehem in London. With Nick Spencer being British he could be aware of this or researched it, so as you speculated before I think 'the First' was the first patient/serial killer to be treated by the doctor.. There is always a chance that he could be related to Filmore or Filmore could have been a disciple or acolyte of 'the First' before his conversion - thoughts? I think thats a superb hypothesis tbh. Bethlem and Maudsley I believe it became later in life - yes? And no, despite having a very good friend who worked in seclusion there - no, that just flew past me! Then again most stuff does I hope you are right - as that brings the mad/bad debate firmly into focus,as suggested by the comics byline. By Jove Sir,I think you've cracked it! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Serious question: how did Image leave the future of the story with Larry? I might have missed it somewhere as I'm not a close follower of Bedlam. On release dates - don't forget that Planetary took 11 years to release 27 issues and it's still a fantastic read. Not great for the people who are trying to follow it in monthly form and/or speculate on early issues - but long release dates won't necessarily detract from the longevity of the title. Some stuff is just better read in trade anyway, even if it is released on time - Morning Glories, Manhattan Projects, Walking Dead (if we're talking Image titles). At the moment, the only three titles I'm reading where I feel I've got my money's worth from just reading one book a month are Batman, Batman Inc. and Saga. Adam, Eric Stephenson was on here earlier, and when questioned about the Phantom "deal", said the following. I'm paraphrasing of course. 1) All the Phantom Bedlam work was approved by Image. 2) Yes the group was formed as a result of being rejected by Images first LCS group - The Ghost guys. 3) Eric clearly stated that the issue of variants by LCS groups was not in the long term benefit of Image or their product, and as such would not be encouraged in the future. The future sales being directly influenced by the number of variants on the market - for example #1 - #6 phantom issues - but as Image could not cancel the existing contract - then it is the LCS (Larry) responsiblility to be sensible with print numbers. 4) Eric also 'alluded' - (and yes,I could be biased in this Adam), that the LCS products had damaged their brand,as Eric referred to the NYCC variant by name as being "helpfull" - suggesting that the others were not. Regarless - Eric Stephenson made it 100% clear that this variant saturation will end as of now. I hope its the real head of Image - but who knows. I guess it could be anyone - but he did give away some pretty cool expensive Image exclusive stuff! See, you were right. We can converse politely. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoComics Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Serious question: how did Image leave the future of the story with Larry? I might have missed it somewhere as I'm not a close follower of Bedlam. On release dates - don't forget that Planetary took 11 years to release 27 issues and it's still a fantastic read. Not great for the people who are trying to follow it in monthly form and/or speculate on early issues - but long release dates won't necessarily detract from the longevity of the title. Some stuff is just better read in trade anyway, even if it is released on time - Morning Glories, Manhattan Projects, Walking Dead (if we're talking Image titles). At the moment, the only three titles I'm reading where I feel I've got my money's worth from just reading one book a month are Batman, Batman Inc. and Saga. Adam, Eric Stephenson was on here earlier, and when questioned about the Phantom "deal", said the following. I'm paraphrasing of course. 1) All the Phantom Bedlam work was approved by Image. 2) Yes the group was formed as a result of being rejected by Images first LCS group - The Ghost guys. 3) Eric clearly stated that the issue of variants by LCS groups was not in the long term benefit of Image or their product, and as such would not be encouraged in the future. The future sales being directly influenced by the number of variants on the market - for example #1 - #6 phantom issues - but as Image could not cancel the existing contract - then it is the LCS (Larry) responsiblility to be sensible with print numbers. 4) Eric also 'alluded' - (and yes,I could be biased in this Adam), that the LCS products had damaged their brand,as Eric referred to the NYCC variant by name as being "helpfull" - suggesting that the others were not. Regarless - Eric Stephenson made it 100% clear that this variant saturation will end as of now. I hope its the real head of Image - but who knows. I guess it could be anyone - but he did give away some pretty cool expensive Image exclusive stuff! See, you were right. We can converse politely. (thumbs u I think "rejected" is a rather harsh term. The Ghost Variant group was set up by a specific group of guys who wanted to do something together. The other variants are all authorized. They all went through this office. I think some of the retailers not invited to participate in the Ghost Variant group were a little miffed and just figured, we'll do our own exclusives. If they feel there's a market for it on their ends and the individual creators want to participate, I don't have have a problem with it. I'm all for whatever helps individual stores grow their business. Do I think that sort of things is sustainable over the long term? Well, no, and I would hope they realize that, too. End of the day, you want people to read and enjoy these things, not just hunt and collect them. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com You can take from it what you will. Without bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz2810i Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Serious question: how did Image leave the future of the story with Larry? I might have missed it somewhere as I'm not a close follower of Bedlam. On release dates - don't forget that Planetary took 11 years to release 27 issues and it's still a fantastic read. Not great for the people who are trying to follow it in monthly form and/or speculate on early issues - but long release dates won't necessarily detract from the longevity of the title. Some stuff is just better read in trade anyway, even if it is released on time - Morning Glories, Manhattan Projects, Walking Dead (if we're talking Image titles). At the moment, the only three titles I'm reading where I feel I've got my money's worth from just reading one book a month are Batman, Batman Inc. and Saga. Adam, Eric Stephenson was on here earlier, and when questioned about the Phantom "deal", said the following. I'm paraphrasing of course. 1) All the Phantom Bedlam work was approved by Image. 2) Yes the group was formed as a result of being rejected by Images first LCS group - The Ghost guys. 3) Eric clearly stated that the issue of variants by LCS groups was not in the long term benefit of Image or their product, and as such would not be encouraged in the future. The future sales being directly influenced by the number of variants on the market - for example #1 - #6 phantom issues - but as Image could not cancel the existing contract - then it is the LCS (Larry) responsiblility to be sensible with print numbers. 4) Eric also 'alluded' - (and yes,I could be biased in this Adam), that the LCS products had damaged their brand,as Eric referred to the NYCC variant by name as being "helpfull" - suggesting that the others were not. Regarless - Eric Stephenson made it 100% clear that this variant saturation will end as of now. I hope its the real head of Image - but who knows. I guess it could be anyone - but he did give away some pretty cool expensive Image exclusive stuff! See, you were right. We can converse politely. (thumbs u I think "rejected" is a rather harsh term. The Ghost Variant group was set up by a specific group of guys who wanted to do something together. The other variants are all authorized. They all went through this office. I think some of the retailers not invited to participate in the Ghost Variant group were a little miffed and just figured, we'll do our own exclusives. If they feel there's a market for it on their ends and the individual creators want to participate, I don't have have a problem with it. I'm all for whatever helps individual stores grow their business. Do I think that sort of things is sustainable over the long term? Well, no, and I would hope they realize that, too. End of the day, you want people to read and enjoy these things, not just hunt and collect them. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com You can take from it what you will. Without bias. Where was this posted? In here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 The comic is great - will it make any of us SA key profits? At the moment - its 50/50 Issue #3 swung it for me - brilliance in a graphic novel. As I said before - if the creators stop screwing up and get it out as advertised then people can 'grow into' the story. Because the story,with Bedlam is what it is all about. As for store variants - where Eric Stephenson comes on here and basically says - "we won't be doing the phantom stuff again" - read between the lines guys - its there for all to see - then Image realise that it was a bad call to leave the future of a terrific story in the hands of Loose-Lipped Larry. And they regret it. Image will be doing all they can to ensure that Bedlam runs like clockwork from now on. And,as long as the story carries on like it has,this will be the biggest selling comic in 2013. But - what or who is the first?? Anyone got a clue? Serious question: how did Image leave the future of the story with Larry? I might have missed it somewhere as I'm not a close follower of Bedlam. On release dates - don't forget that Planetary took 11 years to release 27 issues and it's still a fantastic read. Not great for the people who are trying to follow it in monthly form and/or speculate on early issues - but long release dates won't necessarily detract from the longevity of the title. Some stuff is just better read in trade anyway, even if it is released on time - Morning Glories, Manhattan Projects, Walking Dead (if we're talking Image titles). At the moment, the only three titles I'm reading where I feel I've got my money's worth from just reading one book a month are Batman, Batman Inc. and Saga. Adam, Eric Stephenson was on here earlier, and when questioned about the Phantom "deal", said the following. I'm paraphrasing of course. 1) All the Phantom Bedlam work was approved by Image. 2) Yes the group was formed as a result of being rejected by Images first LCS group - The Ghost guys. 3) Eric clearly stated that the issue of variants by LCS groups was not in the long term benefit of Image or their product, and as such would not be encouraged in the future. The future sales being directly influenced by the number of variants on the market - for example #1 - #6 phantom issues - but as Image could not cancel the existing contract - then it is the LCS (Larry) responsiblility to be sensible with print numbers. 4) Eric also 'alluded' - (and yes,I could be biased in this Adam), that the LCS products had damaged their brand,as Eric referred to the NYCC variant by name as being "helpfull" - suggesting that the others were not. Regarless - Eric Stephenson made it 100% clear that this variant saturation will end as of now. I hope its the real head of Image - but who knows. I guess it could be anyone - but he did give away some pretty cool expensive Image exclusive stuff! See, you were right. We can converse politely. (thumbs u I think "rejected" is a rather harsh term. The Ghost Variant group was set up by a specific group of guys who wanted to do something together. The other variants are all authorized. They all went through this office. I think some of the retailers not invited to participate in the Ghost Variant group were a little miffed and just figured, we'll do our own exclusives. If they feel there's a market for it on their ends and the individual creators want to participate, I don't have have a problem with it. I'm all for whatever helps individual stores grow their business. Do I think that sort of things is sustainable over the long term? Well, no, and I would hope they realize that, too. End of the day, you want people to read and enjoy these things, not just hunt and collect them. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com You can take from it what you will. Without bias. Where was this posted? In here? Would you like a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
