possible Spiderman 1 back cover variant?

[gadzukes]

I bought a Spiderman 1 last night on ebay. It was a universal grade PGX 5.5 (I know... I'm not supposed to buy PGX)

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261079354372?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_500wt_1326

 

This morning when I was looking at the pics again I noticed that the back cover seems to have the black background variant of the shoe advertisement from that era. Every Spidey 1 I've ever seen has had a blue background on the shoe advertisement.

 

I know that Marvel published a Black background version of this ad during this era, but I've never seen it on Spidey 1.

 

Is there a variant back cover to Spidey 1? Does the photo just have bad color? Or did I just get ripped off on the Spidey 1 I just bought?

 

For comparison here's the back cover of the one I just bought.... and underneath it is the normal back cover.

 

 

[Anfield Fox]

I'm thinking the back scan is for a different book

[gadzukes]

I'm thinking the back scan is for a different book

 

I had that thought, but then I looked at the spine edge of the front and back photos and the "black line" that's on the spine edge seems to match on the 2 photos

[gadzukes]

I just emailed the seller, maybe he can clear this up for me.

[Anfield Fox]

I'm thinking the back scan is for a different book

 

I had that thought, but then I looked at the spine edge of the front and back photos and the "black line" that's on the spine edge seems to match on the 2 photos

 

I hope you're right

[The-Collector]

I'm thinking the back scan is for a different book

 

I had that thought, but then I looked at the spine edge of the front and back photos and the "black line" that's on the spine edge seems to match on the 2 photos

 

I hope you're right

 

+1 hope it is all above board man

[maloney414]

You either found a variant, or that book had resto done and a new back cover was added. or

 

There were definitely different ads during that period, but I have no idea if one color was unique to each specific book.

 

I just glanced at some of my own books and my Avengers #4 has the black version ad. Hopefully yours didn't come from an Avengers book.

 

We need more people to check their ASM #1's for you to see if there is another example. Check Heritages archives too since they do back cover scans.

 

 

[gadzukes]

I looked through a bunch of Spidey 1 auctions and the background color on the ad seems to vary quite a bit from light blue to dark blue. I didn't see any that looked black.

[gadzukes]

You either found a variant, or that book had resto done and a new back cover was added. or

 

There were definitely different ads during that period, but I have no idea if one color was unique to each specific book.

 

I just glanced at some of my own books and my Avengers #4 has the black version ad. Hopefully yours didn't come from an Avengers book.

 

We need more people to check their ASM #1's for you to see if there is another example. Check Heritages archives too since they do back cover scans.

 

 

Is PGX so bad that they would let a completely wrong back cover get a universal label?

 

I'm hoping I've found a true variant!!! (Now everyone is checking the backs of their Spidey 1s

[Buzzetta]

We all know that with certain lighting, dark blue can look black. If you look at the right side of your photo of the suspect book it lightens to the point that it could be navy blue.

[maloney414]

You either found a variant, or that book had resto done and a new back cover was added. or

 

There were definitely different ads during that period, but I have no idea if one color was unique to each specific book.

 

I just glanced at some of my own books and my Avengers #4 has the black version ad. Hopefully yours didn't come from an Avengers book.

 

We need more people to check their ASM #1's for you to see if there is another example. Check Heritages archives too since they do back cover scans.

 

 

Is PGX so bad that they would let a completely wrong back cover get a universal label?

 

I'm hoping I've found a true variant!!! (Now everyone is checking the backs of their Spidey 1s

 

Whichever way it goes, this will be an interesting thread!

 

[Columbia Comics]

Looked at the BC of the Spidey 1 I have and it's blue with some areas that are darker than others.

 

I wouldn't surprise me if there were many BCs on these books with varying degrees of color shades. They weren't exactly churning out $100 books back then with a 12 cent price tag so it's possible that something happened along the way.

 

Unfortulately I don't think you've found any type of variant, nor would CGC recognize it as such. If it is black, its rather cool versus other Spidey 1's but I don't see much additional value.

 

I hope you didn't find the "12 year old with a magic market" variant

[Wipple]

We all know that with certain lighting, dark blue can look black. If you look at the right side of your photo of the suspect book it lightens to the point that it could be navy blue.

 

+1

[gadzukes]

Ok, I think I've figured this out.

Here are the differences between the Blue Background Ad (like on Spidey 1 & TOS 39) and the Black Background Ad (like on Avengers 4 and Xmen 4)

 

Here's the bottom of the Blue background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is NO black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light green

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

 

Here's the bottom of the Black background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is a black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light blue

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk DO NOT have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

With this evidence I can see that the back cover of the ASM 1 I just bought is CORRECT. It just has the darkest blue background I've ever seen on this comic OR it is truly a variant cover with a BLACK background. When I get the comic I will let you know.

 

[Junkdrawer]

Ther should be some diferences on the front covers as well when compared.

[conditionfreak]

Here is mine. It is a dark blue. I could see where a semi bad scan could make it look black. It is slabbed. In hand, it is actually very slightly darker than this scan shows.

 

But your new book sure does look like black-black.

 

[DiceX]

I think what you have there is the "horrible photograph variant."

 

 

[plitch]

Ok, I think I've figured this out.

Here are the differences between the Blue Background Ad (like on Spidey 1 & TOS 39) and the Black Background Ad (like on Avengers 4 and Xmen 4)

 

Here's the bottom of the Blue background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is NO black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light green

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

 

Here's the bottom of the Black background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is a black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light blue

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk DO NOT have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

With this evidence I can see that the back cover of the ASM 1 I just bought is CORRECT. It just has the darkest blue background I've ever seen on this comic OR it is truly a variant cover with a BLACK background. When I get the comic I will let you know.

 

Check the Dept. #'s on the bottom left/center

ASM #1 & TOS #39 should be Mason Dept, H-655

Avengers #4 should be Mason Dept. F-122

[mysterio]

Ok, I think I've figured this out.

Here are the differences between the Blue Background Ad (like on Spidey 1 & TOS 39) and the Black Background Ad (like on Avengers 4 and Xmen 4)

 

Here's the bottom of the Blue background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is NO black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light green

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

 

Here's the bottom of the Black background Ad:

There are 3 things to notice

1) there is a black line around the yellow edge of the ad

2) the box in the lower right corner is light blue

3) the first 2 shoes under the trunk DO NOT have a highlight on the toes of the shoes

 

With this evidence I can see that the back cover of the ASM 1 I just bought is CORRECT. It just has the darkest blue background I've ever seen on this comic OR it is truly a variant cover with a BLACK background. When I get the comic I will let you know.

 

Check the Dept. #'s on the bottom left/center

ASM #1 & TOS #39 should be Mason Dept, H-655

Avengers #4 should be Mason Dept. F-122

 

You sure can learn a lot in this place.

[sufunk]

According to what plitch says, that bottom pic is an Avengers 4 back cover and not an ASM1 cus it definitely says dept F-122 not H-655