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When will/will the WALKING DEAD bubble burst?
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RockMyAmadeus

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So many people seem to be wishing for The Walking Dead to fall. I'm sorry that you didn't grab one before the price shot through the roof, really, i am. C'mere, you need a hug? Wash the Crow off your hands first and I may let you hold mine, through the bag of course.

 

 

Thanks for showing your to the boards and simultaneously making one of the least correct statements possible.

 

Here's a tip: when you have no idea who you are talking to or what they collect or own it's probably unwise to whip it out like this. It's better to keep silent and have people think you are lacking, than to lay the gherkin on the table and remove all doubt.

 

Owning something doesn't mean you are required to lie about it and call it the first bulletproof collectible in the history of mankind. I refuse to compromise my integrity on the hopes I make an extra buck. Then again maybe you are light in that area too. So make your own choice.

 

I said "seem". Read slower. And it absolutely seems like there are some people on this thread who are rooting for the walking dead to plummet in value based on what they are posting. You're not necessarily one of those people. I have not called you out by name. but Comix4fun, Here's a tip: Don't walk around like the all knowing comic authority and king of the boards. And try to be a little less of an individual_without_enough_empathy.

 

 

 

Nice backpedal.

 

Apology accepted.

 

I only spoke to you in individual_without_enough_empathy because individual_without_enough_empathy seems to be the only language you speak.

 

Also when it comes to these boards , and who's and authority and who isn't, it's like MMA for nerds. You earn it.

 

The next time you want to give someone advice, don't. Unless it's for comedic purposes.

 

Fortunately for you I am fluent in individual_without_enough_empathy. MMA for nerds? Now that would be entertaining. I did not apologize in fact I called you an individual_without_enough_empathy. You desperately need to reread my posts and your own. You were wrong about about the walking dead video game, the crow and about me. You may want to reconsider posting any more advice considering your track record of being wrong.

 

This is the last thing I'm going to say on the subject:

 

I like the walking dead. I enjoy the comics, the show and the telltale game. I look forward to the story developing further. I have enjoyed collecting and selling the comics and I could honestly give a rats what history has taught us as far as the strength of a comic book as an investment. I love my copy of Walking Dead #1 just as much now as when raw copies were going for $200 to $300 bucks a few years ago, which is when i purchased my copies. I'm not selling mine. A lot of people thought this book hit its peak at $1000 dollars. Guess they were wrong. $2000? hmmmm guess they were wrong about that too. Will it ever see $4000 i don't know and guess what... neither do you. If you don't have one and want one

I suggest you do like I did. Search ebay for raw copies listed in NM/M, buy tickets to a comic convention that Robert Kirkman and Tony Moore are going to be at, get a hotel, fly out to said convention, get them signed and witnessed and graded, keep the nicest one for yourself and sell the rest to pay for your expenses. Bam! Free copy! Don't hate the player, hate the game. Now I'm going to get off the computer before this erupts into MMA for nerds. Wait, isn't that called pro wrestling?

 

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comix4fun

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The first Crow movie (1994) was a huge critical and financial success. $144 million at the box office,

 

Where are you getting these stats from? it's an ok movie and comic and im not putting it down and it DID DO OK, but The film grossed $50,693,129 in the United States.. Thats it!

It ranked at 24 for 1994.. Thats all good, but its not huge! There's no way you can compare it to a TV show that ranks higher than American Idol both in revenues and in popularity.

 

 

 

It doesn't rank higher than American Idol in revenues. It ranked higher, for a single episode, in ratings...one episode, one week. It was the season finale of Walking Dead against a random episode of American Idol.

 

There are dozens and dozens of American Idol episodes, and far fewer WD ones.

 

Put the numbers in perspective and they are still impressive, they don't need the extra boost added by Barnum-izing them.

 

The WD show is number one show among adults 18-49 -

 

For the season yes. Absolutely. I was referring to revenue.There were 16 episodes of WD. There have been 31 episodes of American Idol so far, some 2 hours or more long. It's got more than double the commericial time and airtime. Walking Dead doesn't draw more ad revenue, it draws more average viewers per episode 18-49.

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comix4fun

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So to summarize... when the WD bubble WILL burst... 20 years from now Ill still be happy with selling it for this money:

 

linky

 

 

Yep, all you'll need are 4 feature films grossing roughly a half-billion worldwide, another few hundred million in video and dvd sales, toy lines in constant production for over 25 years, 4 more animated series running for 19 years total, a concert tour, a theme park ride, get viacom to buy it for $60 million and finally you'll need 98% of the current census of cgc 9.8 copies of WD #1 to be destroyed to match the rarity of TMNT #1.

 

If you just want it to be as rare as a 9.6 you only need 95% of the print run to be destroyed. Then it might approach the same rarity.

 

So yeah, it'll happen.

 

I am glad you shot down how unlike The Crow that The WD is. Now that I see it written down WD is EXACTLY like TMNT. (thumbs u

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yes but idol doesnt have merchendising, blue ray/dvd, and... comic book sales that WD has

 

 

Except for the concert tour, the album sales, the itunes downloads, the product tie ins, the product placement, the massive advertiser subsidies from Ford, Coke, etc.

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yes but idol doesnt have merchendising, blue ray/dvd, and... comic book sales that WD has

 

 

Except for the concert tour, the album sales, the itunes downloads, the product tie ins, the product placement, the massive advertiser subsidies from Ford, Coke, etc.

 

Carrie underwood. :cloud9:

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comix4fun

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Yeah, but American Idols sucks sour frog @$$. IMHO.

 

I wonder, are the commercials aired really that much the same, from AI to TWD?

 

:eek:

 

 

 

-slym

 

 

It the worst thing on TV, and it took a lot to get there with the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo, Survivor, The various Bachelor/Dating/Marrying shows.

 

They all score huge ratings and make so much money, while costing so little to produce that we'll never be rid of them.

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The Crow opened #1 at the box office. $50 million is the US take. Like all movies, it played overseas where it took in 94 million more. Thus 144 million. On a $23 million budget, so it earned 6x it's budget - also another number that makes the hollywood crowd slobber. It also did these numbers as an R rated film, which always makes it harder. Wiki routinely has nice overviews of movies, but Rotten Tomatoes does too.

 

I don't know where you are getting your numbers on Walking Dead. First your comparing Walking Dead to the worst season ever of AI. But depending on what numbers you care to look at, AI is still squeaking by WD. WD averaged 11.42 million viewers last season. We don't know what AI's season average will be, but Nielsen says for the week of April 8 AI had 12.2 million viewers on Wed and 13.2 on Thursday. According to other sources, viewership for AI has recovered and notched up the last two weeks on AI but the most current posted Nielsen numbers are for April 8, 2013.

 

Regardless, a comparison to a Network show that is in it's 12th (and can we pray last) year to WD isn't the point. My point was that the most watched cable tv show isn't close to the most watched network show. To it's credit, it looks like last year it would have been close to cracking the top 10, just falling short of #10 Criminal Minds with 11.46 million viewers. But the number one watched network shows are often in the 20-25 million range.

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Idol has a record label? Thats news to me

 

 

Idol has a contract with all the winners from season one to now to record on their label. It's signed before auditions happen.

 

Which might be why you see people who came in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. have massive careers instead of the winner.

 

Also the top ten have a contract that's signed before they can audition locking them into a concert tour at a set pay rate.

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Yeah, but American Idols sucks sour frog @$$. IMHO.

 

I wonder, are the commercials aired really that much the same, from AI to TWD?

 

:eek:

 

 

It the worst thing on TV, and it took a lot to get there with the Kardashians, Honey Boo Boo, Survivor, The various Bachelor/Dating/Marrying shows.

 

They all score huge ratings and make so much money, while costing so little to produce that we'll never be rid of them.

 

IKR??

 

:cry:

 

 

 

-slym

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comix4fun

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where did you get that info from?

 

Maybe you're confusing your terms from label to management/liaison?

 

 

Ugh. You're getting lost in points that are minutiae and irrelevant to the central point.

 

Short version, and the point...Fox makes all the money (with a huge chunk to Cowell ) from Idol, including but not limited to the concert tour, and the recording contract of the winner of each season.

 

Have you never seen the show? It's the prize they are all fighting for.

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where did you get that info from?

 

Maybe you're confusing your terms from label to management/liaison?

 

 

Ugh. You're getting lost in points that are minutiae and irrelevant to the central point.

 

Short version, and the point...Fox makes all the money (with a huge chunk to Cowell ) from Idol, including but not limited to the concert tour, and the recording contract of the winner of each season.

 

Have you never seen the show? It's the prize they are all fighting for.

 

Who is Fox and why does he make all the money?

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