The Modern Speculation Thread 5 5

[Nico Esq]

Agreed and even if his Batman was of comparable quality to a Hemingway novel "Death in the Family" changed comics forever not just Batman. I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that DC should not have resurrected Jason Todd. It ranks up there with some of the worst decisions in the history of comics in my opinion.

[400yrs]

The Death in the Family books (Bats 426 - 429) still do ok and there is a HUGE print run on those comparatively. This Tec run is FAR superior to that mediocre story, IMO.

 

Superior in what way? When DC reboots its universe again here in 2-3 years, it'll mean nothing. The reverberations of a Death in the Family on Batman lasted decades.

This new series may seem far more important, it's written to make you think that, but ultimately it's just a gimmick to pull in sales, and will end up having the long term importance of, say, Greg Rucka's run on Wonder Woman.

Remember how hot that was?

Short term, it'll make you money. Long term? A lot of people will sit around wondering why they paid that kind of money for those books.

Meanwhile A Death in the Family will still be considered a classic of its time.

 

When you can write stories and just go ape shte crazy with the characters, because DC knows they can erase it later, you can do all kinds of things to shock readers and increase sales.

When you have to create 'within the lines', and are still able to change the course of major character, now THAT's something to remember.

 

Yep. Death in the Family definitely shook up the book for a while. I honestly am not a continuity stickler though. I just want a good read, so I'm just saying read-wise. If people are looking for good Batman stories to read in the future, people may be pointed toward the Black Mirror rather than a Death in the Family.

 

If someone asked me to recommend them one good Batman book to read, I'd give them Year One or the Black Mirror. No way would I give them Death in the Family.

[Garf]

Bravest Warriors - does anyone have an idea as to how the print run is likely to break down? If it is 17 - 18K is that in the majority split between cover A & B? Meaning Cover A has roughly 8K+ printed?

[Point Five]

I'd also like to take this opportunity to say that DC should not have resurrected Jason Todd. It ranks up there with some of the worst decisions in the history of comics in my opinion.

 

 

[FlyingDonut]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

[seanfingh]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Were any 11-16 boys reading those comics?

[manetteska]

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Mr. Donut - Any specific titles or even issues to check out?

[seanfingh]

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Mr. Donut - Any specific titles or even issues to check out?

 

Mr. Donut - Perhaps you could buy them for me and have them dropshipped to me?

[manetteska]

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Mr. Donut - Any specific titles or even issues to check out?

 

Mr. Donut - Perhaps you could buy them for me and have them dropshipped to me?

 

Could you please enlighten me as to why asking for clarification is incorrect? This is a speculation thread where people post what comics they think will go up in value. If he/she doesn't want to elaborate, fine, but I don't think asking is wrong.

 

This whole thread probably could have started and ended with a single post - "Comics from 1992 - current should go up."; I thought this was a place for people to learn about comics and collecting them.

[Prince Namor]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Were any 11-16 boys reading those comics?

 

Was anything popular from from 1997-2001?

I'm not entirely joking.

[Nico Esq]

Chuck I was thinking the exact same thing?

[seanfingh]

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Mr. Donut - Any specific titles or even issues to check out?

 

Mr. Donut - Perhaps you could buy them for me and have them dropshipped to me?

 

Could you please enlighten me as to why asking for clarification is incorrect? This is a speculation thread where people post what comics they think will go up in value. If he/she doesn't want to elaborate, fine, but I don't think asking is wrong.

 

This whole thread probably could have started and ended with a single post - "Comics from 1992 - current should go up."; I thought this was a place for people to learn about comics and collecting them.

 

It was a joke. Stop being a crybaby, MANNUP, and speculate on some modern comics.

[Prince Namor]

The Death in the Family books (Bats 426 - 429) still do ok and there is a HUGE print run on those comparatively. This Tec run is FAR superior to that mediocre story, IMO.

 

Superior in what way? When DC reboots its universe again here in 2-3 years, it'll mean nothing. The reverberations of a Death in the Family on Batman lasted decades.

This new series may seem far more important, it's written to make you think that, but ultimately it's just a gimmick to pull in sales, and will end up having the long term importance of, say, Greg Rucka's run on Wonder Woman.

Remember how hot that was?

Short term, it'll make you money. Long term? A lot of people will sit around wondering why they paid that kind of money for those books.

Meanwhile A Death in the Family will still be considered a classic of its time.

 

When you can write stories and just go ape shte crazy with the characters, because DC knows they can erase it later, you can do all kinds of things to shock readers and increase sales.

When you have to create 'within the lines', and are still able to change the course of major character, now THAT's something to remember.

 

Yep. Death in the Family definitely shook up the book for a while. I honestly am not a continuity stickler though. I just want a good read, so I'm just saying read-wise. If people are looking for good Batman stories to read in the future, people may be pointed toward the Black Mirror rather than a Death in the Family.

 

If someone asked me to recommend them one good Batman book to read, I'd give them Year One or the Black Mirror. No way would I give them Death in the Family.

 

Yeah, it hasn't aged well at all. I'd agree with your recommendations as well.

[RockMyAmadeus]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Were any 11-16 boys reading those comics?

 

Was anything popular from from 1997-2001?

I'm not entirely joking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Prince Namor]

Chuck I was thinking the exact same thing?

 

It's an easy era to pick on. Obviously there was some decent stuff during that time...

Uh... right off the top of my head.... The Authority was top notch. Ultimate Spider-man wasn't something 'I' enjoyed, but it was immensely popular...100 Bullets... the DD reboot...Transmetropolitan... uh... help me out here.... uh... Vampi?

[Prince Namor]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Were any 11-16 boys reading those comics?

 

Was anything popular from from 1997-2001?

I'm not entirely joking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know. I know. It was enough to keep some of us moderately interested...

[bababooey]

My pick for speculation? ANY mainstream Marvel title published between 1997 and 2001. Very low (~25K for SPIDER-MAN!) print runs, and you can buy them for literally pennies. Stick them away. The Rule of 25 always holds.

 

Excuse my ignornance, Dan, but how many years do we have to hold these for? Rule of 25; what's that?

 

Rule of 25 is that things become "popular" approx every 25 years.

 

I think it's more that people become nostalgic for things they had in their childhood. It obviously doesn't work for everything though and there's a "rule of 25" and a "rule of 30"

 

mintcollector should be here any minute now

It certainly has worked for this hobby for a long time.

 

The Rule of 25 holds that the "hot" collectible in any given year is what was "hot" amongst 11-16 year old boys 25 years previously. People can argue it until the cows come home, but it has always held. You can buy comics from the 1997-2000 period for literally pennies now - hold them for ten years, and you'll be just fine.

 

Were any 11-16 boys reading those comics?

 

There was probably more kids reading 'hot' books like The Nam, New Universe, Superman/Byrne reboot, Justice League International 25 years ago.

 

 

[Legion HQ]

Crossgen started up during that time as well. Some very good titles in that line. My favorite by far was Negation. If that line ever experiences a revival....

[500Club]

Chuck I was thinking the exact same thing?

 

It's an easy era to pick on. Obviously there was some decent stuff during that time...

Uh... right off the top of my head.... The Authority was top notch. Ultimate Spider-man wasn't something 'I' enjoyed, but it was immensely popular...100 Bullets... the DD reboot...Transmetropolitan... uh... help me out here.... uh... Vampi?

Preacher

Morrison's JLA

[thirdgreenham]

Crossgen started up during that time as well. Some very good titles in that line. My favorite by far was Negation. If that line ever experiences a revival....

 

I loved the whole line of Crossgen, with the exceptions of probably only Mystic and Scion. Meridian, Ruse, Route 666, and Negation were my faves.