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Brave & Bold #28: Speculation on future pricing
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Just got back from MOS. What a great flick. With the non-linear storytelling, it felt just like a 12 issue series smashed into 2.5 hours of magic. As soon as the credits rolled, my 10 year old son, says "Dad, they need to make a Flash movie". He did not catch the Easter eggs placed all through out the film, but when I mentioned the hints to him, he immediately put the Justice League puzzle together. BB28 will be a force in the years to come with the path now firmly paved for a JL film.

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Posted a review of the movie on CG (I know, like the 500th person to the pot).

 

 

 

It is clear that BB28 prices have started to surge behind the excitement of a future JLA movie (at least as far as this site can observe...), but are others seeing similar trends on related titles (JLA 1, Showcase 4, etc)?

 

If you were to pick one JLA original team member to keep the momentum and launch a JLA movie, who would you pick?

 

My vote is on Flash (Barry Allen, not Wally West) or Wonder Woman (female heroes are grossly under-represented in the market and could be a huge upside if done well).

 

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Showcase 4 has had a higher price increase recently when compared to bb28. Heck 5.0s seem to be avg 8k+. A year ago it was 5k ish. Bb28 is strong right now but still lags behind sc4

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Showcase 4 is bumping up, along with JLA 1. Ath this point, even gossip leaking possible team members of a movie will feed the frenzy. According to the registry, and unlike Marvel SA books, the DC SA's are tougher to find in above average grade for the key books that will be directly affected. It will be interesting to see if this actually hinders a steady price growth over time, by preventing the number of entry points for new buyers, while conversely causing huge price spikes, and ultimately a market crash by eliminating new buyers too quickly and creating apathy. (See Showcase 22) But then again, what do I know, I buy comics because I love them.

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Gator, I am seriously on the fence with a resub on the SC4 5.5 you sold me.
its a very pretty 5.5

 

I am sure it is a pretty one! Got a scan?

 

FYI - I LOVE the resub dilemma. It is an interesting mix of pepto-bismol and champagne.

 

 

Side note, what about some of the lesser characters like Martian Manhunter (minor key - Tec 225) or less successful like Green Lantern (SC 22 and GL 1)?

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Call me crazy but it'll probably get into the 300K+ range by 2015 and within 15 years will be on track to Action 1 and Detective 27 territory.

 

Avengers 1 in 9.6 is a $250k book, not 9.4.

 

If the sole 9.4 BB 28 came up for auction, I think it could surpass $300k right now, given the right circumstances.

 

I was aware of Avengers 1 9.6 being at that price point. Of course the highest known BB28 is 9.4 so they were the only logical things to compare.

It'd be a virtual 9.6 for purposes of comparison only pertaining to the highest books on the census.

 

You're probably right about the 9.4 being close to that valuation (300K +) now however.

 

As far as being a stretch to meet pricing for Detective or Action.....I'm talking about the prices for those now compared to the pricing for the same BB28 15 years from now.

If it's a 300K comic now 15 years from now you'll have a trilogy of Superman movies as well as the Batman reboot with the potential for a similar JLA trilogy and stand alone movies including Flash, WW, possibly Aquaman and hopefully some better Green Lantern flicks. It's not inconceivable that BB28 9.4 hits 1 mil mark given that degree of time and exposure is it?

What you won't see is an equivalence of price at the same time between those three aforementioned comics.....but to say that it can't get into that upper echelon price tier when it might be a half million dollar comic circa 2020 may be incorrect. Of course it's all speculation and just based upon what we believe can potentially happen. Your guess is honestly as good if not better than mine.

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If you are hoping for a decent JLA movie then you better pray they hire a different writer than the one credited at this point. Will Beal's Gangster Squad -script was one of the worst I've seen on a bigger budget picture in a long time, even more annoying as the source material was actually quite interesting.

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Showcase 4 is bumping up, along with JLA 1. Ath this point, even gossip leaking possible team members of a movie will feed the frenzy. According to the registry, and unlike Marvel SA books, the DC SA's are tougher to find in above average grade for the key books that will be directly affected. It will be interesting to see if this actually hinders a steady price growth over time, by preventing the number of entry points for new buyers, while conversely causing huge price spikes, and ultimately a market crash by eliminating new buyers too quickly and creating apathy. (See Showcase 22) But then again, what do I know, I buy comics because I love them.

 

Showcase 22 really isn't a soft book at all bro. There was an 8.5 that doubleupgraded to 9.2 and hit the market in a frenzy. was the first 9.2, but arguably looked no nicer than 9.0 and so there was a cascading affect to the book at all upper (and mid-) grades. things have settled a bit now and while prices are lower than all-time-highs, they're still much higher than they were prior to the 9.2 event.

 

Some people assert the price falling was attributable to the Green Lantern movie being.....shall we say...... less than Academy Award material, but this isn't the case (can be confirmed by looking at timing).

 

Just wanted to offer my two cents - no change required (thumbs u

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Showcase 4 has had a higher price increase recently when compared to bb28. Heck 5.0s seem to be avg 8k+. A year ago it was 5k ish. Bb28 is strong right now but still lags behind sc4

 

Same effect (most sales being private) - if you ask me.

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Showcase 4 has had a higher price increase recently when compared to bb28. Heck 5.0s seem to be avg 8k+. A year ago it was 5k ish. Bb28 is strong right now but still lags behind sc4

 

Same effect (most sales being private) - if you ask me.

i actually was really looking at the last 3 public sales (eBay, cc, heritage) supporting the private numbers (thumbs u
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Showcase 4 is bumping up, along with JLA 1. Ath this point, even gossip leaking possible team members of a movie will feed the frenzy. According to the registry, and unlike Marvel SA books, the DC SA's are tougher to find in above average grade for the key books that will be directly affected. It will be interesting to see if this actually hinders a steady price growth over time, by preventing the number of entry points for new buyers, while conversely causing huge price spikes, and ultimately a market crash by eliminating new buyers too quickly and creating apathy. (See Showcase 22) But then again, what do I know, I buy comics because I love them.

 

Showcase 22 really isn't a soft book at all bro. There was an 8.5 that doubleupgraded to 9.2 and hit the market in a frenzy. was the first 9.2, but arguably looked no nicer than 9.0 and so there was a cascading affect to the book at all upper (and mid-) grades. things have settled a bit now and while prices are lower than all-time-highs, they're still much higher than they were prior to the 9.2 event.

 

Some people assert the price falling was attributable to the Green Lantern movie being.....shall we say...... less than Academy Award material, but this isn't the case (can be confirmed by looking at timing).

 

Just wanted to offer my two cents - no change required (thumbs u

 

I see your point. The 9.2 disrupted the tiers. Also, I feel that the movies are affecting price not based on their critical acclaim, or lack there-of, but the character's increased exposure.

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Showcase 4 has had a higher price increase recently when compared to bb28. Heck 5.0s seem to be avg 8k+. A year ago it was 5k ish. Bb28 is strong right now but still lags behind sc4

 

Same effect (most sales being private) - if you ask me.

i actually was really looking at the last 3 public sales (eBay, cc, heritage) supporting the private numbers (thumbs u

 

I agree -

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In addition, it has long been developing a "Justice League" team-up movie featuring characters such as the Flash and Wonder Woman that could come out as soon as 2015.

 

 

This should be listed in ebay details for BB28 and JLA1!

 

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In addition, it has long been developing a "Justice League" team-up movie featuring characters such as the Flash and Wonder Woman that could come out as soon as 2015.

 

 

This should be listed in ebay details for BB28 and JLA1!

 

Not sure you're gonna find as many of them for awhile....some folks already yanked their listings as per preciptous increase in pricing. There may be no telling what the ceiling is on this....so folks may not be willing to leave $ on the table.

Then again I'm sure there'll be a few going for the gusto with big ticket #s...

 

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