adamstrange Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 That's a Heck of a cover Andy! Don was certainly on fire when he drew that cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightson fan Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I love the point of view on this cover. Deslabbed 5.0 from the last Heritage weekly, got it for under guide, which surprised me. Andy, you got this for under guide because I backed off bidding any higher than I already had after we discussed which books we were going after. It was on my short list but would have given up alot to keep such nice fellers as yourself from bidding on the Venus. Thanks....and you are welcome. (thumbs u Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterlingcomics Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Not to mention it was on my short list too, but decided to go after the 9.4 COC book this time. There was simply too much good precode material for me to go "wild", so I just concentrated on a book or two. Wow, that Weird Tales of the Future went for over $1,500 for a 9.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterlingcomics Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks but you may like this one better... I'm crackin' this baby out! I was real tempted on this one. Pure evil I tell you, pure evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*paull* Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) So what do you think is the current state of the pre-code horror market? It seems to me like it's still possible to buy good books at or below guide. I'm a little surprised that the pre-code market hasn't benefited from the rapid gains seen in 30s and 40s material. In my opinion, the top pre-code horror covers still have really soft prices. Books like Tomb of Terror #15, Black Cat Mystery #50, Weird Mysteries #5, Weird Mysteries #6, Mister Mystery #12, Haunted Thrills #5, etc. have been flat at best over the past few years. It seems obvious that at _some point_ the horror market will rebound. But will we see another horror boom like the one that occured when the Gerber books were released? If the market rebounds, when will it happen and what will it take? Will it take massive gains in GA superhero books that put them out of reach of a large subset of GA collectors and pushes them into the atomic age and pre-code horror? Edited August 6, 2007 by paull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterlingcomics Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 That's exactly what I mean though. The MM is so raw an image, it's like a slap in the face! Crude and to the point. Great for horror btw. I personally am not crazy about this cover. I know I'll get a for saying it to but it's how I feel, not one of my top covers. Not from me...it's a good cover for shock value but the MM doesn't do much for me :shrug: Horror from me is more about atmosphere and effect (like the Weird Terror furnace cover) than the actual act of brutality itself. It's what you don't see that makes for a better cover imho. You could say I've been classically trained by the Comics Code Authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterlingcomics Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 So what do you think is the current state of the pre-code horror market? In general, horror across the board is down. Across ages. To be perfectly honest, my head has been stuck up Bronze Age Horror's butt for so long, I haven't been noticing any trends in precode. All I know is that the current prices I'm seeing for high grade precode (except for the "keys") is a level that I'm comfortable with, and as long as it continues, I'll be a potential buyer in the market. When and if it rises, I won't. There are some BA books I'd actually pay more for than some of the precodes...I am definitely more of a picky buyer when it comes to precode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*paull* Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) I don't even think the "key" pre-code books are out of line right now. In fact, I think they've been flat for years, whereas in Timely and DC keys, we've seen major increases. I should leave Black Cat Mystery #50 out of that statement though.... someone just paid $418 for a CGC 3.5 copy on Heritage, as an example. However, even though this book has seen increases, they are nowhere near as big as key hero books Edited August 6, 2007 by paull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 GA horror is pretty flat right now, which is why I am buying like crazy. There is no reason that I should be able to get a great book like Weird Mysteries 2 in decent shape (5.5) for that cheap. It has a fantastic cover by one of the best horror artists, and a classic interior by one of the best sci-fi artists. Baily and Wolverton and I still get it for under guide? This wasn't a lone incident either. The Weird Terror 7 for $90 was a bargain as well. Another classic for under guide. I can go on and on... The big boys still demand multiples, with Fight Against Crime 20 leading the pack (untouchable for less than 5-10x guide). These pre-codes demand over guide almost every time, in virtually any condition.... Fight Against Crime 20 Crime Suspenstories 22 Black Cat 50 Tomb of Terror 15 Mister Mystery 12 Weird Mysteries 5 Chamber of Chills 23 Vault of Horror 30 Blue Bolt 105, 115 Mask 1, 2 Underworld Crime 7 Anyone care to add some more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Not on my top ten list but there is a hooded figure on the cover: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Biggins Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 I was the underbidder at one point on that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 So you're the one who got that River City "man in the tube" Suspense! The colors are super on that cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Biggins Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Thanks but you may like this one better... I'm crackin' this baby out! I was real tempted on this one. Pure evil I tell you, pure evil! I think the LCS has this book.. OR it did. Nice condition if I recall. I'll have to call them on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatcher Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 GA horror is pretty flat right now, which is why I am buying like crazy. There is no reason that I should be able to get a great book like Weird Mysteries 2 in decent shape (5.5) for that cheap. It has a fantastic cover by one of the best horror artists, and a classic interior by one of the best sci-fi artists. Baily and Wolverton and I still get it for under guide? This wasn't a lone incident either. The Weird Terror 7 for $90 was a bargain as well. Another classic for under guide. I can go on and on... The big boys still demand multiples, with Fight Against Crime 20 leading the pack (untouchable for less than 5-10x guide). These pre-codes demand over guide almost every time, in virtually any condition.... Fight Against Crime 20 Crime Suspenstories 22 Black Cat 50 Tomb of Terror 15 Mister Mystery 12 Weird Mysteries 5 Chamber of Chills 23 Vault of Horror 30 Blue Bolt 105, 115 Mask 1, 2 Underworld Crime 7 Anyone care to add some more? How about Weird Tales Of The Future? Are they in the same league as the above, or do they sell for under guide? Angelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*paull* Posted August 6, 2007 Author Share Posted August 6, 2007 (edited) I think it's hard to look at guide as a judge for how these books sell in the market. I think that quality and desirable material should always sell for over guide, but we don't see that with pre-code horror right now. Weird Tales of the Future seems to be a strong seller. I don't think that any of the issues are particularly scarce, though. Count me as someone who doesn't really go crazy for Fight Against Crime 20. I'd add Out of the Shadows #8 to that list. A sought-after and scarce book. Edited August 6, 2007 by paull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 So you're the one who got that River City "man in the tube" Suspense! The colors are super on that cover! Only because I was shut out on the Black Knight books. A nice consolation prize, I think. Oh, here's a tough book that has been on my want list since 1993 or so: Beware 5 (werewolf cover) - Trojan Magazines I have more toughies that I will list a little later tonight. Thanks-John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 One on my list is Super-Mystery Comics Vol. 6 #3 Such a great cover! And I know a board member out there has a copy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 What do you guys think of the scarcity of Chilling Tales 1 and 13? I never have any luck locating those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 So you're the one who got that River City "man in the tube" Suspense! The colors are super on that cover! Only because I was shut out on the Black Knight books. A nice consolation prize, I think. Oh, here's a tough book that has been on my want list since 1993 or so: Beware 5 (werewolf cover) - Trojan Magazines I have more toughies that I will list a little later tonight. Thanks-John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted August 6, 2007 Share Posted August 6, 2007 Where was that copy when Gerber was photographing his guides? The copy they have is tore up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
