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Great copy.

 

Thank you very much! I love these Kirby covers with monster-pants & panicky people.

-bc

 

Same here & people being chased by cavemen and dinosaurs are pretty cool too. :cloud9:

 

Thanks for positing your copy of TTA #23. That book in HG is just amazing!

 

Thanks ! Here's a better pic of the full cover:

 

TTA_23_FULL_zpseutqd3om.jpg

-bc

That is a beautiful copy. (worship)
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Worthy of the re-post to see the entire cover. :applause:

 

While were on the subject I happen to have a splash page scan, from the middle of the book handy. Love the "capitalistic trick" comment.

 

 

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Cool splash!

 

My favorite is "My wooden form is harder than any element on earth!" but keep the matches away please.

-bc

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Great copy.

 

Thank you very much! I love these Kirby covers with monster-pants & panicky people.

-bc

 

Same here & people being chased by cavemen and dinosaurs are pretty cool too. :cloud9:

 

Thanks for positing your copy of TTA #23. That book in HG is just amazing!

 

Thanks ! Here's a better pic of the full cover:

 

TTA_23_FULL_zpseutqd3om.jpg

-bc

 

Beautiful copy of a really tough book in grade. Congrats!!

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You have amassed an incredible PH collection! :headbang:

My collection will probably be the last books I ever sell off, when the time comes.

 

Thank you very much !

 

After lurking the boards and this thread for 24% of my life, glad I can finally contribute :)

 

Got to give a shout out to the people who inspired & educated me on the PHM world : Nelson (my first comic dealer who steered me toward the PHMs), Punyhuman (for starting this thread), Forbush-Man, Sharkey, Red-Hook, Divad, ThatPOVGuy, Silver Surfer, AdamStrange, SFilosa, TheWatcher, TRMoore54, AtlasFan, Cheetah, KirbyJack, JimJum12, Bronty and you ! Sorry if I missed any others !

 

After 7 years of focusing on these books, I'm almost halfway to having all 164 of the PHMs in VF/8.0 or better grade. I gave up collecting SA Marvel superheroes around 2008, because "collecting" became more like "ordering" from eBay or another website and not hunting - these PHMs have been a small game hunters dream !

 

And like you, these books will probably be the last to go when I finally sell it all off.

-bc

 

 

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You have amassed an incredible PH collection! :headbang:

My collection will probably be the last books I ever sell off, when the time comes.

 

Thank you very much !

 

After lurking the boards and this thread for 24% of my life, glad I can finally contribute :)

 

Got to give a shout out to the people who inspired & educated me on the PHM world : Nelson (my first comic dealer who steered me toward the PHMs), Punyhuman (for starting this thread), Forbush-Man, Sharkey, Red-Hook, Divad, ThatPOVGuy, Silver Surfer, AdamStrange, SFilosa, TheWatcher, TRMoore54, AtlasFan, Cheetah, KirbyJack, JimJum12, Bronty and you ! Sorry if I missed any others !

 

After 7 years of focusing on these books, I'm almost halfway to having all 164 of the PHMs in VF/8.0 or better grade. I gave up collecting SA Marvel superheroes around 2008, because "collecting" became more like "ordering" from eBay or another website and not hunting - these PHMs have been a small game hunters dream !

 

And like you, these books will probably be the last to go when I finally sell it all off.

-bc

 

 

There's nothing quite like a high grade example of one of these PHM books. Most people don't truly realize the astounding feat it is to put them all together in 8.0. :golfclap: GOD BLESS....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

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They've always been tough...... I remember a show in the mid 70's when I stumbled across a box of them in high grade....but didn't buy any because they were 5 dollars each, but I thought about it. To put it into perspective, at that show, I spent my paper route money on a group lot of HULK 2-6 for 30 dollars (6 was 8.0) and 8.5/9.0 copies of X-MEN 1 and JIM 85 for 5 dollars each. GOD BLESS...

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

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About an hour ago I officially sold off the last of my SA/BA superhero books to fellow boardie 1Cool.

 

So I'm down to my PHM hoard and a few GA superhero books.

 

Feels sort of liberating, in a comic geek way.

 

Was re-reading this thread and noticed I re-arranged my photobucket pics and messed up a bunch of links.

 

Reposting just 'cause this was fun to put together last summer :

 

IMG_20150801_151314627_bc_zpsy8vatdjw.jpg

 

-bc

 

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You have amassed an incredible PH collection! :headbang:

My collection will probably be the last books I ever sell off, when the time comes.

 

Thank you very much !

 

After lurking the boards and this thread for 24% of my life, glad I can finally contribute :)

 

Got to give a shout out to the people who inspired & educated me on the PHM world : Nelson (my first comic dealer who steered me toward the PHMs), Punyhuman (for starting this thread), Forbush-Man, Sharkey, Red-Hook, Divad, ThatPOVGuy, Silver Surfer, AdamStrange, SFilosa, TheWatcher, TRMoore54, AtlasFan, Cheetah, KirbyJack, JimJum12, Bronty and you ! Sorry if I missed any others !

 

After 7 years of focusing on these books, I'm almost halfway to having all 164 of the PHMs in VF/8.0 or better grade. I gave up collecting SA Marvel superheroes around 2008, because "collecting" became more like "ordering" from eBay or another website and not hunting - these PHMs have been a small game hunters dream !

 

And like you, these books will probably be the last to go when I finally sell it all off.

-bc

 

 

There's nothing quite like a high grade example of one of these PHM books. Most people don't truly realize the astounding feat it is to put them all together in 8.0. :golfclap: GOD BLESS....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

 

 

I was happy just finding nice presenting copies of these comics. Can't even imagine 8.0 or better. (worship)

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You have amassed an incredible PH collection! :headbang:

My collection will probably be the last books I ever sell off, when the time comes.

 

Thank you very much !

 

After lurking the boards and this thread for 24% of my life, glad I can finally contribute :)

 

Got to give a shout out to the people who inspired & educated me on the PHM world : Nelson (my first comic dealer who steered me toward the PHMs), Punyhuman (for starting this thread), Forbush-Man, Sharkey, Red-Hook, Divad, ThatPOVGuy, Silver Surfer, AdamStrange, SFilosa, TheWatcher, TRMoore54, AtlasFan, Cheetah, KirbyJack, JimJum12, Bronty and you ! Sorry if I missed any others !

 

After 7 years of focusing on these books, I'm almost halfway to having all 164 of the PHMs in VF/8.0 or better grade. I gave up collecting SA Marvel superheroes around 2008, because "collecting" became more like "ordering" from eBay or another website and not hunting - these PHMs have been a small game hunters dream !

 

And like you, these books will probably be the last to go when I finally sell it all off.

-bc

 

 

Rock on brother! they are fabulous books!

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About an hour ago I officially sold off the last of my SA/BA superhero books to fellow boardie 1Cool.

 

So I'm down to my PHM hoard and a few GA superhero books.

 

Feels sort of liberating, in a comic geek way.

 

Was re-reading this thread and noticed I re-arranged my photobucket pics and messed up a bunch of links.

 

Reposting just 'cause this was fun to put together last summer :

 

IMG_20150801_151314627_bc_zpsy8vatdjw.jpg

 

-bc

 

Quoted again just because all pre hero collectors want to find a hoard like yours

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I posted this on another website in response to some PHM questions. Like to add it here for archival purposes.

 

Tales of Suspense 38 officially marks the last of the PHM issues with a cover date of February 1963 :(

 

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Only Tales of Suspense 37 (1/63) and 38 (2/63) actually made it into 1963 cover dates; the rest had all converted to a superhero format by then or ceased publication as in the case of World of Fantasy and Strange Worlds.

 

But it wasn’t the end of the PHM stories! It was just the end of the PHM covers. :D

 

The PHM stories continued as 5 page nuggets that were hidden inside the newly introduced superhero cover issues of Journey into Mystery, Strange Tales, Tales to Astonish and Tales of Suspense for another 16 months until June 1964.

 

This doesn’t include content from Tales of Asgard (JIM 97-125), Tales of the Watcher (TOS 49-58) or Wasp’s Tales (TTA 51-56) as those had ties to the contemporary superheroes (although the first couple of the Tales of the Watcher stories are questionable in my humble opinion).

 

After paging thru several collections of post-PHM issues that encompassed every issue of the big 4 (JIM, ST, TOS & TTA) as well as the first couple of years of the superhero titles (FF, Avengers, ASM, IH, Sgt. Fury, X-Men, DD, Thor and the like), the PHM Sole Survivor Award goes to:

 

SKRANG :applause:

 

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Skrang was the last of the original PHM villains in the last original PHM story. Unfortunately, he retreated in fear from the Earth because he saw that elderly lady in the first panel wearing a fox stole while she was out alone on a casual evening stroll. We later find out that on Skrang’s planet, his race was at war with a vicious army of fox people and if this fragile Earth female was sporting one as a trophy around her neck, we were far too superior to even risk an attack.

 

That story appeared in Tales of Suspense 54 (which also sports the second appearance of the Mandarin - June 1964):

 

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From there, we have to wait for the re-birth of Marvel Horror in the early Bronze Age and the subsequent reprinting/re-telling of the stories from our beloved PHM classics. To me, it sort of starts with the Tales of the Watcher re-appearing in Silver Surfer 1 (8/68) and the one-shot Tales of Asgard (10/68) and definitively reboots with Tower of Shadows and Chamber of Darkness in mid-69.

 

Here’s a list of the issue’s I’ve compiled that contain original PHM-style stories that continue into the Marvel Silver Age Superhero era:

 

Amazing Fantasy 15 (not like anyone’s going to buy it in any shape for the PHM content)

Strange Tales 101-113

Journey into Mystery 83-104

Tales of Suspense 39-48, 50-54

Tales to Astonish 35-51, 54

 

Here’s some of the Rogue’s Gallery from this group:

 

The Frightful Frog-Man (from Strange Tales 104)

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The Star Raiders of Planet Torgo (from Tales to Astonish 37)

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Tremble before the Killer Treadmill of Rodrigo Cadiz (from Tales to Astonish 50)

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As you can see, these villains were just as cover worthy as Roc, Glob, Sserpo, Torr and maybe even the mighty Moomba !

 

I did not have access to any sizable amount of Atlas/Marvel westerns, so feel free to add data if there is any.

 

The Pre-Hero Marvel sub-genre that originated with Strange Worlds 1 (12/58) under the combined talents of Lee/Ditko/Kirby/Ayers and others actually blossomed for 6 years until the superheroes were mature and diverse enough to finally carry the entire issues in June 1964.

 

Thanks for reading and as usual, keep ‘em coming !

-bc

 

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Great books, bc and rickstarr! :applause:

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