Comics, Pulps, and Paperbacks: Why such a discrepancy in values? 25 25

[jimjum12]

On 5/10/2024 at 7:18 PM, Surfing Alien said:

This is a pretty small group, you're probably much more likely to find people with enough Bilbrew and other hard sleaze artist knowledge on the Facebook "Vintage Paperback and Pulp Forum" group. There's 40k people in that group.

I'd never heard of him, and don't mind a tutorial. I'm certainly not a gay basher, my God Son is gay and my God Daughter thought she was for ages, until she met Jesus. I'm not talking about religion, the guy's actual name is Jesus. I call him the "young bohemian", and he actually knew what that meant, so I'm definitely warming to him. @Black Cactus, just be careful with full volume nudity, as it's discouraged here. Mike may be more tolerant in the paperback area, as there's a LOT of it out there, but I wouldn't assume. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

 

This, for example, this will usually fly, but I'd say we're venturing to the edge of the precipice ...

 

[Darwination]

Naked bodies have been part of art high and low since the cavemen

I've been posting semi-naked girls in the girlie pulp thread or even some more transgressive stuffs in the underground thread.  It's part of what we collect, and I truly doubt any minors are wandering around here, and, if they are, I'm sure nothing we post even registers on the shocking scale given the depredations of the modern internet.  If I get a warning, I may moderate, but we seem do to do fine...

I'm happy to look at whatevs and am pretty sure Bilbrew wanders into some of the magazine areas I collect in like in this 50s girlie mag:

 

but I really wouldn't have the first clue in being able to distinguish him from imitators.

Nice copy of Black Opium there, Jim!

[jimjum12]

On 5/11/2024 at 3:03 PM, Darwination said:

Naked bodies have been part of art high and low since the cavemen

I've been posting semi-naked girls in the girlie pulp thread or even some more transgressive stuffs in the underground thread.  It's part of what we collect, and I truly doubt any minors are wandering around here, and, if they are, I'm sure nothing we post even registers on the shocking scale given the depredations of the modern internet.  If I get a warning, I may moderate, but we seem do to do fine...

I'm happy to look at whatevs and am pretty sure Bilbrew wanders into some of the magazine areas I collect in like in this 50s girlie mag:

 

but I really wouldn't have the first clue in being able to distinguish him from imitators.

Nice copy of Black Opium there, Jim!

Thank you, figured that one would be on the permanent wish list. 

The boards, at least at one time, were restricted for membership to18 YO and up .... anonymous lurking is still unrestricted. GOD BLESS .... 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

 

I once had a Frazetta pen and ink scan (The Giantess) from an issue of Gallery removed for nudity, but the thread itself was drifting towards the off color. 

Edited May 11 by jimjum12

[jimjum12]

Just so any mischievous lurkers don't think we're all a bunch of porn lords, here's a little Avon beauty that I couldn't resist, but could afford. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

 

 

[Darwination]

Lol, Jim, you did manage to get some cheesecake in the post, though

Is that Lucy?  I came across this one not too long ago

Edited May 11 by Darwination

[jimjum12]

On 5/11/2024 at 3:48 PM, Darwination said:

Lol, Jim, you did manage to get some cheesecake in the post, though

Is that Lucy?  I came across this one not too long ago

That is, absolutely, Lucy ... quite the hottie in her day. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[jimjum12]

Here's one I got for cheap and it has a cover that's one of my faves. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

 

[CGC Mike]

On 5/11/2024 at 8:32 AM, jimjum12 said:

@Black Cactus, just be careful with full volume nudity, as it's discouraged here. Mike may be more tolerant in the paperback area, as there's a LOT of it out there, but I wouldn't assume. GOD BLESS...

 

On 5/11/2024 at 3:03 PM, Darwination said:

Naked bodies have been part of art high and low since the cavemen

I've been posting semi-naked girls in the girlie pulp thread or even some more transgressive stuffs in the underground thread.  It's part of what we collect, and I truly doubt any minors are wandering around here, and, if they are, I'm sure nothing we post even registers on the shocking scale given the depredations of the modern internet.  If I get a warning, I may moderate, but we seem do to do fine...

I'm happy to look at whatevs and am pretty sure Bilbrew wanders into some of the magazine areas I collect in like in this 50s girlie mag:

I'll chime in on this.  Yes, we did change the minimum age from 16 to 18 years old.  Here is what is written in the terms of use regarding nudity.  Before posting this, I will share my view.  Full frontal nudity may be going too far.  If it is done in a tasteful manner, or is at a distance and really doesn't reveal all, it will probably pass.  

Nude images: Given that this is a comic book collecting forum, some leeway for actual comic imagery is provided, more so than non-comic related imagery. Some nudity is allowed when it is comic related and done in a tasteful manner. However, there are many comics that are quite explicit and aren't allowed to be posted here.

[Darwination]

Hotel Wife - Ruth Lyons (1949.Lev Gleason Library 101) cover

The first entry in the very small Lev Gleason Library from 1949.  I picked it up as the price was right, and it was mentioned a couple of times in American Daredevil, a recent and most interesting read on golden age publisher Lev Gleason  (Daredevil, Crime Does Not Pay, Friday, Picture Scoop, Reader's Scope).  Apparently the book sold well at the time, but I can find little about it except that the hardcover was published in 1933 and banned in Australia.  I looked up the other six books in the series - they look O.K.. but nothing really jumped out at me, and the most interesting was a reprint of Marjorie Hillis' Live Alone and Like it.  A pity, as the format is very cool, 132 pages and squarebound with glue, a little skinnier than most digests and with a very thick and very glossy cover.  The back cover doesn't help matters - this is not how you sell a paperback:

Edited May 12 by Darwination

[MattTheDuck]

On 5/10/2024 at 4:28 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Some Friday Fun...

Best Detective Selection No.7 "The Corpse Hangs High" by Edward Ronns (Aarons)  1943  Cover art by George Dunsford Klein   

A beautiful early Atlas forerunner. I'm bearing down on picking up the early 40's books lately. They have such a great Golden Age feel to them, and who doesn't love a hanging corpse on a flagpole cover?

 

I would like to see how they got him out there.

[Hap Hazard]

Here's a odd-ball:

Prelude to Space has a double cover. The outer cover is loose the inner cover is bound/glued to the book like normal.

[jimjum12]

On 5/11/2024 at 11:30 PM, Hap Hazard said:

Here's a odd-ball:

Prelude to Space has a double cover. The outer cover is loose the inner cover is bound/glued to the book like normal.

Somebody had a Jack Daniels sandwich for lunch at the Printers'. GOD BLESS ... 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[Surfing Alien]

On 5/12/2024 at 7:28 AM, jimjum12 said:

Somebody had a Jack Daniels sandwich for lunch at the Printers'. GOD BLESS ... 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Probably not as common to find as with comics since the extra cover wasn't stapled to the book like with a comic book. These extra covers probably fell away and were discarded.

[OtherEric]

On 5/11/2024 at 7:38 PM, Darwination said:

Hotel Wife - Ruth Lyons (1949.Lev Gleason Library 101) cover

The first entry in the very small Lev Gleason Library from 1949.  I picked it up as the price was right, and it was mentioned a couple of times in American Daredevil, a recent and most interesting read on golden age publisher Lev Gleason  (Daredevil, Crime Does Not Pay, Friday, Picture Scoop, Reader's Scope).  Apparently the book sold well at the time, but I can find little about it except that the hardcover was published in 1933 and banned in Australia.  I looked up the other six books in the series - they look O.K.. but nothing really jumped out at me, and the most interesting was a reprint of Marjorie Hillis' Live Alone and Like it.  A pity, as the format is very cool, 132 pages and squarebound with glue, a little skinnier than most digests and with a very thick and very glossy cover.  The back cover doesn't help matters - this is not how you sell a paperback:

The only Lev Gleason Library I have, I found it at my local store several months ago.

[Black Cactus]

On 5/11/2024 at 5:02 PM, CGC Mike said:

 

I'll chime in on this.  Yes, we did change the minimum age from 16 to 18 years old.  Here is what is written in the terms of use regarding nudity.  Before posting this, I will share my view.  Full frontal nudity may be going too far.  If it is done in a tasteful manner, or is at a distance and really doesn't reveal all, it will probably pass.  

Nude images: Given that this is a comic book collecting forum, some leeway for actual comic imagery is provided, more so than non-comic related imagery. Some nudity is allowed when it is comic related and done in a tasteful manner. However, there are many comics that are quite explicit and aren't allowed to be posted here.

I'm new to these forums, so I realize my opinion doesn't cary much weight.

I guess I just want to pose the question, is nudity so much more offensive than even violence?

I've seen comic and book covers on these forums depicting every possible kind of violence. Domestic violence. Decapitation. Torture. Killing of innocents.

No one bats an eye.

But the human body, which we all share, is what should be feared/limited?

It just has never made any sense to me, as this is the normal societal wide stance and nothing at all unique to these forums.

My day job is in fine art, working with painters. I see a lot of censorship when it comes to nudity. For example, Meta's (facebook/IG) official policy is that nudity in a painting or artistic setting is allowed, yet all too often when an artist shares a tasteful nude painting the algorithm may automatically delete their post, and shadowban their account. Which for an artist, is a big blow to their livelihood.

Anyways, now I have a more clear idea of what sort of imagery is and isn't acceptable here, so that's helpful! I think most of the spade classics would be fine, but maybe near the cutoff. There's a difference between nudity and implicitly sexual material, which the spade classic books are 😇

*edit: this isn't necessarily a direct question posed to Mod Mike, but more of just a rhetorical question and me thinking out loud

Edited May 12 by Black Cactus

[Surfing Alien]

Happy Mother's Day 

Sins of The Fathers (Heed the Thunder) by Jim Thompson. Studio Pocket Edition No. 4. 1952.

A truly rare Jim Thompson pb with spectacular cover art 💞  One of the most sought after vintage pb's.

The artist on this Canadian Studio Pocket is still uncredited after all these years but did such beautiful lines, suggestive yet undefined and artful eye candy.

An old friend just come home. I had a gorgeous copy of this in my first collection that I sold 30 years ago and have been looking for a nice copy since I started collecting again 7 years ago. 

This turns back the clock for me to my college daze since I bought my first copy from Mike, the basement book seller on West 4th Street during my Greenwich Village wanderings when I attended NYU in the early '80's.

[Sarg]

On 5/11/2024 at 9:38 PM, Darwination said:

Hotel Wife - Ruth Lyons (1949.Lev Gleason Library 101) cover

The first entry in the very small Lev Gleason Library from 1949.  I picked it up as the price was right, and it was mentioned a couple of times in American Daredevil, a recent and most interesting read on golden age publisher Lev Gleason  (Daredevil, Crime Does Not Pay, Friday, Picture Scoop, Reader's Scope).  Apparently the book sold well at the time, but I can find little about it except that the hardcover was published in 1933 and banned in Australia.  I looked up the other six books in the series - they look O.K.. but nothing really jumped out at me, and the most interesting was a reprint of Marjorie Hillis' Live Alone and Like it.  A pity, as the format is very cool, 132 pages and squarebound with glue, a little skinnier than most digests and with a very thick and very glossy cover.  The back cover doesn't help matters - this is not how you sell a paperback:

"Lev Gleason Library"? You learn something new every day...

[Surfing Alien]

When I got back into collecting vintage paperbacks 7 years ago, a distant, yet seemingly unreasonable goal was getting back the 3 rarities I most regretted selling back in the 90's 😪

Well, with the recent addition of the Studio Pocket Edition of Jim Thompson's "Sins of the Fathers", the trio is back in the fold. All three of my original copies were pulled out of the ceiling-high stacked boxes in the  "store" of Mike, the Greenwich Village beatnik who sold his collection out of his basement apartment, many to me, in the early 1980's when I roamed West 4th Street in search of paper treasure.

These 3 are the "Top Of The Bill" as far as I'm concerned in the vintage paperback world as far as the combo of rarity and desirability. YMMV

 

[Black Cactus]

While we're on the topics of nudity and violence... 

Robert Bonfils cover published in 1970 for Greenleaf Classics.

Edited May 13 by Black Cactus

[jimjum12]

Don't believe I shared these yet, though I've had them a minute. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)