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DC and Marvel movie results: 1978 to present
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"Marvel made Q-List characters icons"

"DC had widely known characters that should have made a billion each"

"Who knew Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk and Thor outside of the comic book community?"

The varying arguments with sometimes quite a strong bias to make a point fails to focus on the fact the biggest issue with WB/DC is it didn't know how to tell its own creative story what was it trying to accomplish. And how did these varying production teams fit into some grand scheme, even if there was no real plan for it all to fit together. And even if Elseworlds or a Multiverse concept was factored in, market that message so audiences understand what type of ride are they in store to experience.

Where the Marvel Studios Parliament (a real creative governance body) at least has a clear plan concerning a connected fictional world guided by Stephen Broussard, Executive (Production and Development), Nate Moore (Vice President of Production and Development), Jonathan Schwartz (Vice President of Production and Development), Trinh Tran Executive, Production and Development), Brad Winderbaum (Head of Streaming, Television and Animation). WB/DC had different teams that kept changing over time with no marketing message where this was all heading. Yet despite its own ineptitude at figuring out its roadmap and intent, successes did occur more than once.

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And where the 'World of Kevin Feige' really had more than him guiding the ship but with a clear common direction, outsiders kept trying to force WB/DC to do it like Marvel Studios and the studio kept changing its creative mind how to tackle the demands and creative path forward. And with the new DCU executive team coming in to form their own roadmap, they left in-flight films lacking support while they also were forced to implement changes to end the 'DCEU' and make a clean road for this new roadmap. And we also see the connected superhero universe growing stale as a creative concept, which if the WB/DC team had been more in tune with general audiences it could have driven that marketing message home The Worlds of DC was all about variety and less predictability due to the DC Multiverse with many interpretations of the traditional characters.

Messaging and having a vision has been WB/DC's biggest challenge so as to connect with audiences. Not the narrative DC has all these established characters and the MCU had to work with total unknowns. Joker and The Batman proved if you can just deliver an interesting story that audiences can relate to, box office success will happen.

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On 2/3/2024 at 5:45 PM, Bosco685 said:

2023 films continuing into 2024

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I knew Oppenheimer made bank, but I'm not sure why I didn't notice it before, but dang 9.6 RR for Oppenheimer is insane.  3 Hour rated "R" drama movie.  Good on you Nolan.

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they said it couldn't be done, a sequel with a bigger BO collapse than Alice =>Alice:TtLG but The Marvels crushed it, looks like Aqua2 will have to settle for the reverse bronze medal

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