If a Comic has X defect than it can't be above Y grade

[Pike's Comics]

So I have read the Overstreet grading Guide many times and use it as a resource for the photos.

 

One thing I love about it is you can easily determine if a book has X damage then it can't be above Y grade. I was wondering if we could compile a list for what we know the way CGC grades along these lines.

[thunsicker]

The quality of the pages can affect the grade. Listed below is the highest grade a book can receive based on its page quality.

 

Cream to off-white 9.8 cream to off-white can only get up to 9.6 if they are modern.

light tan to off-white 8.5

tan to off-white 7.5

slightly brittle 6.5

brittle 3.5

 

hope this chart helps.

 

From this page quality question thread.

[rjpb]

The quality of the pages can affect the grade. Listed below is the highest grade a book can receive based on its page quality.

 

Cream to off-white 9.8 cream to off-white can only get up to 9.6 if they are modern.

light tan to off-white 8.5

tan to off-white 7.5

slightly brittle 6.5

brittle 3.5

 

hope this chart helps.

 

From this page quality question thread.

 

For the most part these seem pretty lenient.

[divad]

If a Comic has X defect than it can't be above Y grade

 

This is a great idea . . . except that it doesn't work like that. At all.

 

 

[zosocane]

The Overstreet Grading Guide -- which I too have used countless times -- has too many rigid, impractical grading rules that CGC doesn't follow. My understanding is that CGC doesn't have any "bright line" test for any single grade, that's their secret formula, and they have no plans on divulging their standards any time soon (nor should they).

 

In the absence of published CGC standards, the grading standards I like to follow -- which I think are quite pragmatic and leave some wiggle room, unlike Overstreet -- are from the Nostomania Guide. See here: http://www.nostomania.com/servlets/com.nostomania.CatPage?name=ComicsGradingMain

[Wall-Crawler]

What the heck, here is one...Water Stains.

 

I know where Overstreet is on this, but have no experience with how bad CGC hammers books for water stains.

 

Does the size and location of the water stain make any additional difference, say stain on front cover vs back cover.

 

Is a water stain with no rippling "better" than one with ripples?

 

Or is a stain a stain?

 

 

[rdp]

here is a tta 44 --about 5.5 before the stain issue that is just on front cover --downgraded to 4.0

[divad]

Does the size and location of the water stain make any additional difference, say stain on front cover vs back cover?

 

Is a water stain with no rippling "better" than one with ripples?

 

Or is a stain a stain?

 

 

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

[Comicdey]

The quality of the pages can affect the grade. Listed below is the highest grade a book can receive based on its page quality.

 

Cream to off-white 9.8 cream to off-white can only get up to 9.6 if they are modern.

light tan to off-white 8.5

tan to off-white 7.5

slightly brittle 6.5

brittle 3.5

 

hope this chart helps.

 

From this page quality question thread.

 

For the most part these seem pretty lenient.

 

I have an Action 30 that is all of a 9.2/9.4 but has light tan/ow pages and sits in an 8.5 slab.

 

Didn't feel lenient when I got the grade ::

[Sqeggs]

What the heck, here is one...Water Stains.

 

I know where Overstreet is on this, but have no experience with how bad CGC hammers books for water stains.

 

Does the size and location of the water stain make any additional difference, say stain on front cover vs back cover.

 

Is a water stain with no rippling "better" than one with ripples?

 

Or is a stain a stain?

 

 

All that stuff matters, I think, but the bottom line is that lately CGC has been hammering stains of any type, shape, or form. If you have a book that was graded a few years ago that appears to be upgradable but that has a stain, I would think long and hard before resubmitting it.

[Sqeggs]

here is a tta 44 --about 5.5 before the stain issue that is just on front cover --downgraded to 4.0

 

Not too surprised on that one. A lot of ink (and maybe paper) loss there.

[oakman29]

I've got a Batman 232 that has a tiny dot stain on the top right front cover. This book looks every bit a 9.6, but CGC graded the book 8.5. That one will always hurt.