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Black Panther official movie thread (11/3/17)
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14 minutes ago, paperheart said:

Can Barrier-Breaking ‘Black Panther’ Become The First Superhero Movie Nominated For Best Picture?

https://deadline.com/2018/11/black-panther-ryan-coogler-michael-b-jordan-lupita-nyongo-interview-news-1202499543/

NOPE

They literally created another category to avoid nominating this for best picture.

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6 minutes ago, revat said:
24 minutes ago, paperheart said:

Can Barrier-Breaking ‘Black Panther’ Become The First Superhero Movie Nominated For Best Picture?

https://deadline.com/2018/11/black-panther-ryan-coogler-michael-b-jordan-lupita-nyongo-interview-news-1202499543/

NOPE

They literally created another category to avoid nominating this for best picture.

Although I would say it probably should be.  If the ending was stronger and didn't end in typical Marvel movie fashion, the case would be better.  It might not even with most popular, possibly losing to Crazy Rich Asians (who even knows what the criteria is?  what a freaking joke of a category!)

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8 minutes ago, revat said:

NOPE

They literally created another category to avoid nominating this for best picture.

To what are you referring?

The Academy has scrapped the proposed new "Achievement in Popular Film" category and it's a fairly weak year for Best Picture nominees. I think Black Panther could still get a Best Picture nomination (although it won't win).

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3 minutes ago, paperheart said:
20 minutes ago, revat said:

NOPE

They literally created another category to avoid nominating this for best picture.

the Academy ran away from that stupid idea after tremendous backlash

oops you're right! in which case, I humbly change my tune. Definitely a chance for BP.  GOOD.

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8 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said:

To what are you referring?

The Academy has scrapped the proposed new "Achievement in Popular Film" category and it's a fairly weak year for Best Picture nominees. I think Black Panther could still get a Best Picture nomination (although it won't win).

shoo-in nominations:

A Star is Born

BlackKKlansman

Widows

Beale Street

Roma

possibles:

Black Panther

Leave No Trace

Eighth Grade

Hate U Give

First Man

 

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24 minutes ago, paperheart said:

shoo-in nominations:

A Star is Born

BlackKKlansman

Widows

Beale Street

Roma

possibles:

Black Panther

Leave No Trace

Eighth Grade

Hate U Give

First Man

 

Solid list, but you forgot Venom

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What is the definition of the "Best Picture" award?

Like, the Hart Trophy is presented to the player deemed most valuable to his team (by the Writer's Association). Is "Best Picture" for 'Best Film'? I thought it was for something like 'Best Visual Story'? Idk.

Black Panther is a great movie, but it's not the best of 2018. Visually, story, or otherwise. Obviously IMO.

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3 hours ago, TwoPiece said:

Black Panther is a great movie, but it's not the best of 2018. Visually, story, or otherwise. Obviously IMO. 

I would not call it a great movie. A solid Marvel movie, okay, but it did not live up to the hype when I finally saw it. Now if you want to call it the most socially important Marvel film to date, definitely.

Take out the social context, which was Disneyfied and toned down anyway, and it was an okay hero movie. It was a middling Marvel movie, on par with stuff like Captain Marvel 1, Thor 1 or Thor Dark World from an enjoyment and watchability perspective IMHO. Maybe my expectations were too high? I still don't care for the actor that plays T'Challa (too wooden/stiff), and found Killmonger to be one dimensional with a so-so acting job as well. The female leads were far more interesting, but maybe that was the angle Disney was looking for? 

 

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3 minutes ago, kimik said:

I would not call it a great movie. A solid Marvel movie, okay, but it did not live up to the hype when I finally saw it.

Take out the social context, which was Disneyfied and toned down anyway, and it was an okay hero movie. It was a middling Marvel movie, on par with stuff like Captain Marvel 1, Thor 1 or Thor Dark World from an enjoyment and watchability perspective IMHO. Maybe my expectations were too high? I still don't care for the actor that plays T'Challa (too wooden/stiff), and found Killmonger to be one dimensional with a so-so acting job as well. The female leads were far more interesting, but maybe that was the angle Disney was looking for as well? 

Captain Marvel hasn't been released yet...

It's a great movie. It suffers from typical hero tropes like the ol' fake death routine, villain has the same power/suit, etc. It's still well-directed, acted, and culturally accurate. It's earns its stripes.

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AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

BlackKklansman
Black Panther
Eighth Grade
If Beale Street Could Talk
The Favourite
First Reformed
Green Book
Mary Poppins Returns
A Quiet Place
A Star Is Born

SPECIAL AWARD

Roma

 

Oscar preview?  Black Panther Best Pic Nomination & Into the Spider-Verse Best Animated Pic Nomination - the super hero genre has had an unbelievable 2018

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On ‎12‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 11:24 AM, paperheart said:

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

BlackKklansman
Black Panther
Eighth Grade
If Beale Street Could Talk
The Favourite
First Reformed
Green Book
Mary Poppins Returns
A Quiet Place
A Star Is Born

SPECIAL AWARD

Roma

 

Oscar preview?  Black Panther Best Pic Nomination & Into the Spider-Verse Best Animated Pic Nomination - the super hero genre has had an unbelievable 2018

I'm glad Black Panther is on the list and hope it gets nominated (but don't think it will) , but my top two snubs:  Annihilation (sci-fi) and Sorry to Bother You (more sci-fi than you think, but understandably too esoteric to be nominated, but Shape of Water won best picture last year). 

I hope Quiet Place or Green Book win Best Picture.  I certainly haven't seen all the movies on the list, but I feel "A Star is Born" is kind of overrated, though I was thoroughly impressed with Bradley Cooper as a director.

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I absolutely think Black Panther will get a Best Picture nomination. The Academy has learned its lesson from the omission of The Dark Knight a decade ago and trying to subvert the process by attempting -- and failing -- to add a "Best Popular Film" category this year.

With up to 10 Best Picture noms (although I don't believe they've ever had more than nine), Black Panther will be among them.

I'm still rooting for A Star Is Born to win -- although I think Roma may ultimately win instead.

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35 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said:

I absolutely think Black Panther will get a Best Picture nomination. The Academy has learned its lesson from the omission of The Dark Knight a decade ago and trying to subvert the process by attempting -- and failing -- to add a "Best Popular Film" category this year.

With up to 10 Best Picture noms (although I don't believe they've ever had more than nine), Black Panther will be among them.

I'm still rooting for A Star Is Born to win -- although I think Roma may ultimately win instead.

critics agree- announced today

24TH ANNUAL CRITICS’ CHOICE AWARDS

FILM NOMINATIONS

BEST PICTURE

Black Panther

BlacKkKlansman

The Favourite

First Man

Green Book

If Beale Street Could Talk

Mary Poppins Returns

Roma

A Star Is Born

Vice

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Coogler didn't land a Best Director nom from the Critics but he did get named to this short list:

Black Panther co-writer and director Ryan Coogler, murdered Washington Post op-ed columnist Jamal Khashoggi and Russian ruler/alleged U.S. election influencer Vladimir Putin join President Donald Trump in contention for Time magazine’s Person of The Year 2018.

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