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Hierarchy of books

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stanley1883

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So my wife and I were discussing Grails, namely how one of her grails would be Strange Tales 110. She commented how a grail (for me) is my ASM 121 and that got me thinking. Obviously ASM 121 is not on the same level as Strange Tales 110 for a variety of reasons, price, age, significance, etc. So I put the question to my fellow collectors and fans, what is the Hierarchy of Comic Books.

 

Goes without saying Action comics 1 is the top level. Is it alone, what about Detective 27, and Amazing Fantasy 15?

 

Let's see if we can collaborate and make, 5 tiers? Curious to see if we come to a consensus where books like ASM 129 and the newer books like NM 98 and Batman Adventures 12 fall on this list. What about a Ms. Marvel 1? Also what criteria is it to make a certain tier?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

I'll kick things off

 

Tier 1: Action 1, Detective 27

 

Tier 2: Amazing Fantasy 15, All Star 8 (Wonder Woman), Brave and Bold 28, Captain America 1

 

Tier 3: Hulk 181, Strange Tales 110, Incredible Hulk 1, Tales of Suspense 39, FF 1, ASM 1

 

Tier 4: ASM 121, NM 98, Batman Adventures 12

 

 

 

 

Tier 4:

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oakman29

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I would hardly think F.F.1 and Hulk1 are third tier books.

 

Ok so then Tier 2? or are you putting them as tier 1 on the same platform as Action 1?

My opinion tier 1 are solely Action1 and Tec 27,Marvel Comics#1

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stanley1883

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Not to derail, but to avoid comparing apples to oranges, or simply to avoid categorizing by market value -- would it be better to group by Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper? :shy:

 

I don't think so. I mean a book like NM 98 can be ranked higher than older books like say a Dr. Strange 169? Age of the book shouldn't be a determining factor in my opinion....

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Tier 1: Action 1, Detective 27

 

Tier 2: Amazing Fantasy 15, All Star 8 (Wonder Woman), Captain America 1, Hulk 1, FF 1, Showcase 4

 

Tier 3: X-Men 1, Tales of Suspense 39, Journey into Mystery 83, Showcase 22, ASM 1, Daredevil 1, FF 5

 

Tier 4: Avengers 1, Hulk 181, Strange Tales 110, Brave and Bold 28, FF48, GSX1, TMNT 1

 

Tier 5: ASM 129, ASM 300, Walking Dead 1

 

Tier 6: ASM 121, NM 98, Batman Adventures 12, Saga RRP

 

I'll update as I think of more.

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Dr Chaos

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So my wife and I were discussing Grails, namely how one of her grails would be Strange Tales 110. She commented how a grail (for me) is my ASM 121 and that got me thinking. Obviously ASM 121 is not on the same level as Strange Tales 110 for a variety of reasons, price, age, significance, etc. So I put the question to my fellow collectors and fans, what is the Hierarchy of Comic Books.

 

Goes without saying Action comics 1 is the top level. Is it alone, what about Detective 27, and Amazing Fantasy 15?

 

Let's see if we can collaborate and make, 5 tiers? Curious to see if we come to a consensus where books like ASM 129 and the newer books like NM 98 and Batman Adventures 12 fall on this list. What about a Ms. Marvel 1? Also what criteria is it to make a certain tier?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

I'll kick things off

 

Tier 1: Action 1, Detective 27

 

Tier 2: Amazing Fantasy 15, All Star 8 (Wonder Woman), Brave and Bold 28, Captain America 1

 

Tier 3: Hulk 181, Strange Tales 110, Incredible Hulk 1, Tales of Suspense 39, FF 1, ASM 1

 

Tier 4: ASM 121, NM 98, Batman Adventures 12

 

You are just at the tip of the iceberg.

 

Off the top of my head you are missing these

 

Marvel Comics 1

Batman 1

More Fun 73 (Aquaman and Green Arrow)

Showcase 4 (Flash)

Showcase 22 (Green Lantern)

BB 27 (JLA)

PEP 22 (Archie)

Action 252 (Supergirl)

FF 1

JIM 83

X-Men 1

GS X-Men 1

Avengers 1

Avengers 4

ASM 129

TMNT 1

Albedo 2 *Usagi Yojimbo

Walking Dead 1

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I would hardly think F.F.1 and Hulk1 are third tier books.

 

Ok so then Tier 2? or are you putting them as tier 1 on the same platform as Action 1?

My opinion tier 1 are solely Action1 and Tec 27,Marvel Comics#1

 

 

Why is Marvel 1 higher than Captain America 1?

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oakman29

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I would hardly think F.F.1 and Hulk1 are third tier books.

 

Ok so then Tier 2? or are you putting them as tier 1 on the same platform as Action 1?

My opinion tier 1 are solely Action1 and Tec 27,Marvel Comics#1

 

 

Why is Marvel 1 higher than Captain America 1?

It's not I was giving a "for instance" type of book.Though my personal all time holy grail is Tec 27 There are plenty of books that belong in the tier 1 section.

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Tier 1: Action 1, Detective 27

 

Tier 2: Amazing Fantasy 15, All Star 8 (Wonder Woman), Captain America 1, Hulk 1, FF 1, Showcase 4

 

Tier 3: X-Men 1, Tales of Suspense 39, Journey into Mystery 83, Showcase 22, ASM 1, Daredevil 1, FF 5

 

Tier 4: Avengers 1, Hulk 181, Strange Tales 110, Brave and Bold 28, FF48, GSX1, TMNT 1

 

Tier 5: ASM 129, ASM 300, Walking Dead 1

 

Tier 6: ASM 121, NM 98, Batman Adventures 12, Saga RRP

 

I'll update as I think of more.

 

My biggest difference of opinion on this is Brave and the Bold 28, that and Avengers 1 would be Tier 3 for me at worst...

 

My wife also brought up a good point, age. Meaning how does your age affect your hierarchy/ An older person would most likely downplay NM 98 and Batman Adventures 12 while the younger crowd may think they are more significant.

 

Lastly I would place MSH 13 (First Carol Danvers) and Ms. Marvel 1 on Tier 4 at worst, though my personal bias would make a case for Tier 3

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I wouldn't put MSH #13 or Ms. Marvel #1 anywhere on a tier system…they are completely speculation/movie driven. After that "new movie smell" wears off they will eventually go back down to their regular prices…albeit adjusted for inflation.

 

AF15, Hulk #1, X-Men #1, Hulk #181, etc….never depreciate. They will continue to grow.

 

Don't get me wrong, there could be a small change that somewhere down the road, MSH #13 could be the new Hulk #181 and this movie may kickstart that…but smart money says that is highly unlikely at this point.

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Tier 1: Action 1, Detective 27

 

Tier 2: Amazing Fantasy 15, All Star 8 (Wonder Woman), Captain America 1, Hulk 1, FF 1, Showcase 4

 

Tier 3: X-Men 1, Tales of Suspense 39, Journey into Mystery 83, Showcase 22, ASM 1, Daredevil 1, FF 5

 

Tier 4: Avengers 1, Hulk 181, Strange Tales 110, Brave and Bold 28, FF48, GSX1, TMNT 1

 

Tier 5: ASM 129, ASM 300, Walking Dead 1

 

Tier 6: ASM 121, NM 98, Batman Adventures 12, Saga RRP

 

I'll update as I think of more.

 

My biggest difference of opinion on this is Brave and the Bold 28, that and Avengers 1 would be Tier 3 for me at worst...

 

My wife also brought up a good point, age. Meaning how does your age affect your hierarchy/ An older person would most likely downplay NM 98 and Batman Adventures 12 while the younger crowd may think they are more significant.

 

Lastly I would place MSH 13 (First Carol Danvers) and Ms. Marvel 1 on Tier 4 at worst, though my personal bias would make a case for Tier 3

 

Brave and the Bold 28 and Avengers #1 aren't first appearances of any characters. They're first "team books" whereas even though FF 1 and X-Men 1 are team books, they're also major keys and first appearances of the characters.

 

And I wouldn't consider MSH13 or Ms. Marvel 1 a key worthy of any tier above 7. 2c

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Artboy99

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these rankings are based on what?

 

Seeing Hulk 181 classed as a "tier 4" book made me scratch my head when it is one of the most liquid books around.

 

So when you make a ranking list like you are discussing, what are the reasons to classify it as such?

 

First appearance?

Rarity?

Value?

Sellability?

 

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