Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 43 43

[jjfversion1]

On 9/14/2022 at 12:34 PM, Phight said:

Why are you assuming internal notes have anything to do with graders' notes?

Because most submissions don't have any grader's notes listed and there is a such thing as "internal notes" to check for grading accuracy.

Edited September 14, 2022 by jjfversion1

[jjfversion1]

On 9/14/2022 at 12:40 PM, Phight said:

You don't think internal notes are more like "rush this one, we had lost it" or "careful with the overhang when pressing", etc?

I don't think any of those notes would apply to the case at hand which is why I asked the question in the first place.

9.8 prescreen book gets graded a 9.6 and then submitter is told to send the book back for a re-review after internal notes are checked.

[Iceman399]

@CGC Mike I can't honestly only do so much of cgcs GD job for them and they still make simple mistakes. Best of all qc 5 checker missed it. Like holy cow. 

[MetalPSI]

On 9/14/2022 at 2:46 PM, Iceman399 said:

@CGC Mike I can't honestly only do so much of cgcs GD job for them and they still make simple mistakes. Best of all qc 5 checker missed it. Like holy cow. 

If they manage to start paying attention to these, maybe I can get my Canadian newsstands sorted out properly from now on

[Gaard]

[Sigur Ros]

On 9/14/2022 at 3:34 PM, Phight said:

Why are you assuming internal notes have anything to do with graders' notes?

Because why else would Mike offer to check them to see if it were graded a 9.6 or 9.8, Stu?

[jokiing]

On 7/18/2022 at 12:27 PM, jokiing said:

Just opened a box of 25, fresh off the UPS truck. No scuffs (well, one small one) on the cases. Big improvement there.

(22) with Newton Rings

(2) 9.8 X-Men 1 (1991) cover pulled away from bottom staple on both. Too tight an inner well perchance.

(1) 9.8 Thor 372 bent lower front corner.

Also need to return Ronin 6 for the third time. First it was debris, next it was Newton Rings and now it's Newton Rings and debris. 

 

Over a month and finally my ME shipment has gone out. My two X-Men 1, which were originally graded by CGC at 9.8 have come back to me graded 9.4 due to damage post grade. Not happy.

Edited September 16, 2022 by jokiing

[Sigur Ros]

On 9/14/2022 at 7:49 PM, jokiing said:

Over a month and finally my ME shipment has gone out. My two X-Men 1, which were 9.8, have come back to me graded 9.4 due to damage post grade. Not happy.

So the X-Mens were both 9.8 but then downgraded to 9.4 because of the staple tears they caused.... ?!

[toro]

Don't know if you would consider this quality control.

All my books are sent back by FedEx and they are shipped directly to the local Walgreens to be held there.  Someone shipped my books back using USPS, they arrived in the my city today and got refused (don't know if they tried to deliver them to Walgreens) and now are on there way back to Florida.  This was a FT order that had not moved in ages.  I was happy to see it finally get done and shipped, didn't noticed they screwed up the shipping. 

[CGC Mike]

On 9/14/2022 at 3:22 PM, jjfversion1 said:

Hi Mike,

Is there a reason why "internal notes" may not always be included as part of the grader's notes that is accessible to the public?

I mentioned internal notes as a way to see if the grade said 9.6 or 9.8  My post had nothing to do with graders notes.  

[jjfversion1]

On 9/14/2022 at 5:30 PM, CGC Mike said:

I mentioned internal notes as a way to see if the grade said 9.6 or 9.8  My post had nothing to do with graders notes.  

Thanks for clarifying Mike 

[Ares]

On 9/14/2022 at 4:46 PM, Iceman399 said:

@CGC Mike I can't honestly only do so much of cgcs GD job for them and they still make simple mistakes. Best of all qc 5 checker missed it. Like holy cow. 

what am I missing here?

They didn't list the name Comics & Oddities Foil Edition?

[CGC Mike]

On 9/15/2022 at 1:18 PM, Toldja said:

Toldja 

It's only fitting you create your next id as "Erased"!  

[Galen130]

On 9/15/2022 at 11:22 AM, CGC Mike said:

It's only fitting you create your next id as "Erased"!  

[THE_BEYONDER]

On 9/15/2022 at 1:23 PM, Toldja said:

You can't stop me, you can only hope to contain me 

[workingdog]

On 9/14/2022 at 3:46 PM, Iceman399 said:

@CGC Mike I can't honestly only do so much of cgcs GD job for them and they still make simple mistakes. Best of all qc 5 checker missed it. Like holy cow. 

I don't know if this happens to anyone else but I would highly suggest when your submissions hit Submission Tracking that you check to see if what's listed in your Submission Tracking matches what you put down on your packing slip.  If you don't, it's a recipe for an ME.

I submit a small number of books at a time and far too often these past several MONTHS, there is always one book or two from my packing list that is changed to something totally different when it hits SFG or GEI.  I ask why this keeps happening and I've yet to receive any kind of explanation.

To illustrate, I've attached an example of a packing slip with the books listed and what they were ALL changed to when they got to GEI.

 

[ADAMANTIUM]

On 9/15/2022 at 2:30 PM, workingdog said:

I don't know if this happens to anyone else but I would highly suggest when your submissions hit Submission Tracking that you check to see if what's listed in your Submission Tracking matches what you put down on your packing slip.  If you don't, it's a recipe for an ME.

I submit a small number of books at a time and far too often these past several MONTHS, there is always one book or two from my packing list that is changed to something totally different when it hits SFG or GEI.  I ask why this keeps happening and I've yet to receive any kind of explanation.

To illustrate, I've attached an example of a packing slip with the books listed and what they were ALL changed to when they got to GEI.

 

does this work with mark jewelers as well? edit @CGC Mike I have one now that shows the "national diamond insert" as it should, but I have another in a later sub that is a mark jewelers, that is NOT labeled that way under submission tracking. Both submissions are "sfg" so idk

I've always been told it will be "corrected with the graders", but is not always done. IS there a precaution I should be taking?

Edited September 15, 2022 by ADAMANTIUM

[workingdog]

On 9/15/2022 at 2:32 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

does this work with mark jewelers as well? edit @CGC Mike I have one now that shows the "national diamond insert" as it should, but I have another in a later sub that is a mark jewelers, that is NOT labeled that way under submission tracking. Both submissions are "sfg" so idk

I've always been told it will be "corrected with the graders", but is not always done. IS there a precaution I should be taking?

Thank you, then it's not just me.  I've also been told the graders will correct it but like you say it's not always done.  I've always had to intervene and call CGC.  And if you get a response something akin to "Well, we'll pass this on to our Verification Team."  WHY is there a need for a Verification Team.  Shouldn't the Verification Team be the graders?!?  Regarding your Mark Jewelers designation, if it was on your packing slip but not described as such in Submission Tracking, I would call CGC right away.

Good luck!

[Iceman399]

On 9/15/2022 at 3:30 PM, workingdog said:

I don't know if this happens to anyone else but I would highly suggest when your submissions hit Submission Tracking that you check to see if what's listed in your Submission Tracking matches what you put down on your packing slip.  If you don't, it's a recipe for an ME.

I submit a small number of books at a time and far too often these past several MONTHS, there is always one book or two from my packing list that is changed to something totally different when it hits SFG or GEI.  I ask why this keeps happening and I've yet to receive any kind of explanation.

To illustrate, I've attached an example of a packing slip with the books listed and what they were ALL changed to when they got to GEI.

 

1 I shouldn't have to check and make sure they've done it right. They should just do it right.  I never used to have to check book by book to see if there are mistakes. In 2022 I don't think we've had a fully clean submission this year.  Cgc has reduced the discount for dealers. This might be the straw that I no longer submit for anyone else. I can't be bothered to now have to explain why his book will take another month. Get grief from them and have them pissed off at me with something that is totally outside my control. 

2 that doesn't help when they put an Xmen 4 label on my Xmen 14 annual and am Xmen 14 annual on my Xmen 4. That doesn't help when they seal hairs, shards and junk into the case.

[Gaard]

On 9/15/2022 at 3:30 PM, workingdog said:

I submit a small number of books at a time and far too often these past several MONTHS, there is always one book or two from my packing list that is changed to something totally different when it hits SFG or GEI.  I ask why this keeps happening and I've yet to receive any kind of explanation.

[sarcasm] They're busy [/sarcasm]