Even ComicConnect Can't Tell the Difference

[Jaydogrules]

....between the labels.

 

Notice the last paragraph in the description.

 

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=591812

 

Proving yet again how truly awful and seemingly deliberately mis-leading/minimizing they are.

 

-J.

 

 

 

 

[AnkurJ]

Have your daily dose of Koolaid?

[Illustrious]

I can read the label just fine. I'm sure most people can when buying a book of that multitude.

[VintageComics]

I'm betting they just copied an old auction description and didn't edit it properly.

[Jaydogrules]

I can read the label just fine. I'm sure most people can when buying a book of that multitude.

 

Maybe you can decipher it for me then ?

 

1) Is the resto moderate or extensive ? Because it can't be both.

 

2) Is the book graded as a restored book or as it would have been graded without the apparent restoration ?

 

3) Is the only reason it is considered restored and not "conserved" because it has a little colour touch?

 

4) Why do they use different label colours for signature books, but choose to confuse matters by using the same label for books that are restored and "conserved" (aka restored)? As if the presence of some random signature somewhere on the books is more important than restoration ?

 

The description for the book in the last paragraph seems rather geared to this book in particular. I just think someone needs to read all the fine print on that label.

 

 

-J.

 

[Chicago Boy]

Looks like somebody is also selling pages from Supes 1 from a bound volume in the same auction?? Wonder how those will do.....

[drbanner]

3) Is the only reason it is considered restored and not "conserved" because it has a little colour touch?

 

Good question - let me check the free, on-line grader's notes.

 

"many pieces added to cover"

 

No, it's considered restored because it has pieces added to the cover and color touch.

 

Hmm...and anyways I thought you could have a little color touch on an "unrestored" book?

[Gotham Kid]

I'm betting they just copied an old auction description and didn't edit it properly.

 

[nearmint]

I hate when Comics General makes an appearance in the GA forum.

[rob_react]

I hate when Comics General makes an appearance in the GA forum.

 

[Gotham Kid]

I hate when Comics General makes an appearance in the GA forum.

 

[Jaydogrules]

I hate when Comics General makes an appearance in the GA forum.

 

 

-J.

[Dark Knight]

When looking at a book of this magnitude, most of the time I just look at the label and not even read about the description. Mistakes can happen and I am sure CC will edit the mistake.

[nearmint]

The auction doesn't even start for another 3 weeks. It's just one of many kinks that needs to get worked out prior to bidding.

 

I don't read the descriptions, either. It's all about the label. No treble.

[rjpb]

Clearly a listing description error. I can't imagine anyone bidding would assume it's unrestored, given the info is all there on the label and in the comments.

 

I have more issue with the apparent grade and the "professional" description of the restoration, as it looks like a pretty poor job just from the scans.

[Jaydogrules]

Clearly a listing description error. I can't imagine anyone bidding would assume it's unrestored, given the info is all there on the label and in the comments.

 

I have more issue with the apparent grade and the "professional" description of the restoration, as it looks like a pretty poor job just from the scans.

 

+1

 

-J.

[Bunky Brian]

I can read the label just fine. I'm sure most people can when buying a book of that multitude.

 

Maybe you can decipher it for me then ?

 

1) Is the resto moderate or extensive ? Because it can't be both.

 

2) Is the book graded as a restored book or as it would have been graded without the apparent restoration ?

 

3) Is the only reason it is considered restored and not "conserved" because it has a little colour touch?

 

4) Why do they use different label colours for signature books, but choose to confuse matters by using the same label for books that are restored and "conserved" (aka restored)? As if the presence of some random signature somewhere on the books is more important than restoration ?

 

The description for the book in the last paragraph seems rather geared to this book in particular. I just think someone needs to read all the fine print on that label.

 

 

-J.

 

I agree, I take that as " we are going to convince the unawhere buyer" that all books graded, whether restored or not, are the same and accepted in the hobby, so don't pay attention and bid as if unrestored.

IMHO

 

[Loukayza]

3) Is the only reason it is considered restored and not "conserved" because it has a little colour touch?

 

Good question - let me check the free, on-line grader's notes.

 

 

I gotta admit. That was a good one there. I like it and hope CGC makes a change on this soon...

 

[Jaydogrules]

3) Is the only reason it is considered restored and not "conserved" because it has a little colour touch?

 

Good question - let me check the free, on-line grader's notes.

 

"many pieces added to cover"

 

No, it's considered restored because it has pieces added to the cover and color touch.

 

Hmm...and anyways I thought you could have a little color touch on an "unrestored" book?

 

...and can't you add pieces to the cover/spine to "reinforce" it and have it be called "conservation"? Does anyone really know the supposed differences?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLE-HULK-1CBCS-5-0-OW-WHITE-PAGES-LIKE-CGC-/321649235929?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item4ae3c9d7d9&nma=true&si=RgD8672UacyTR%252Bjk7ERwAehdhLc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

-J.

[Chicago Boy]

They made the same mistake it appears with this Cap 1 in the next auction BTW, anyone think this looks familiar to the one Tomorrows Treasures was selling for 29k (raw) with NO COLOR TOUCH (that some boardies thought they saw as having CT) Looks like the same book to me but that is just my opinion