Moondog Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 That is a great example of how the eye appeal of a book can be much better if the (in this case minute) flaws fall in areas outside the flow of the artwork. I'd always pick a copy like this over another copy with the same technical grade. My own scanning is going slowly, but here's another Mickey Mouse Mag. The white lower right corner is actually part of the artwork; it's cool when a beautiful book also happens to be strong technically. I hope to have some more back from CGC soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50 CENT LONG BOX Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Pepe Lepew protoype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Pepe Lepew protoype? The shot is actually a pretty direct adaptation of the punchline for the 1938 short It was released on July 29 so it would have been playing in theaters for a week or so when the magazine appeared on the newsstands. Many of the covers were taken from publicity artwork produced by the promotions department at the Disney Studios. For example, the V4#2 golf scene that I posted a few pages back is a smaller part of a larger drawing where you see Donald in the background. When looking at these file copies, it is sometimes hard to fathom that they came out at the same time as the early Donald Duck cartoons. This one looks as if it had been put in a mylar in right after it was printed. The circulation of this issue was 106,800 which was about 25% less than that of Action Comics 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just back from CGC. I've never seen another copy that would have graded FN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Very Nice! I can imagine it's very difficult to find a neat cover due to the huge amount of white on the cover. any idea who Fred is? PS thanks for posting all those MMM. It does two things to me at once - makes me appreciate the beauty of the art and it makes me look like a bottom feeder with my books! *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Man, that's a beauty, tb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondog Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just back from CGC. I've never seen another copy that would have graded FN. Another beauty, tb!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tb Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The "Fred" books all came from Jeff Lotman's collection which I bought from Disney Auctions around 10 years ago. Lotman used to be one of the biggest Disney collectors back in the 80s and 90s. My best guess is that he may have bought these books from the Collector's Showcase auctions back in the early 80s. I was looking for them in their catalogs when I visited YellowKid but didn't have time to go through all of them (there are many!). I'll have to check the next time I visit. As for "bragging rights", I must have paid less than $300 for the V1#5 above but that doesn't prevent it from being one of my own favorite books. To me, the boards are all about sharing our passion/interest in whatever we collect, whether we just started or have been at it for 50+ years. Below is another of my favorite books that arrived back today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The "Fred" books all came from Jeff Lotman's collection which I bought from Disney Auctions around 10 years ago. Lotman used to be one of the biggest Disney collectors back in the 80s and 90s. My best guess is that he may have bought these books from the Collector's Showcase auctions back in the early 80s. I was looking for them in their catalogs when I visited YellowKid but didn't have time to go through all of them (there are many!). I'll have to check the next time I visit. As for "bragging rights", I must have paid less than $300 for the V1#5 above but that doesn't prevent it from being one of my own favorite books. To me, the boards are all about sharing our passion/interest in whatever we collect, whether we just started or have been at it for 50+ years. Below is another of my favorite books that arrived back today. Thanks for the info on Fred. Very nice info, indeed! And that football cover is classic! Definitely one of the issues I want to own and display - I recently acquired a Looney Tunes football cover. I just like displaying the sports-themed covers in my office, go figure! And it also is very periodic - the classic hot-tempered donald. Barks drew him and his temper very differently, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokay Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Awesome football cover! Never seen that one...thanks so much for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 When did Donald start transforming from this earlier thinner, more angular version to the more "rounded" version that we know today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 After his first marriage :shrug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - His feet keep getting smaller through the ages. Should we be worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selegue Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - His feet keep getting smaller through the ages. Should we be worried? Actually, it looks more like a periodic function -- small to large to small. They should be big again by about 2050. Unless you're one of those anatine webfoot change doubters. Jack (probably caused by human activity) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - Can always expect you to have the answers! The 1940 duck is to all intents and purposes the modern duck, as any changes since then have just been tweaks. I'm more curious whether the change from the primordial duck (1934) to cro-magnon duck (1940) was gradual, or did Donald one day suddenly transform from a clear 1934-based model into something that was clearly the 1940 model? It'd be interesting to see portrayals of Donald throughout the intervening years to see if there was a clear and abrupt transformative moment or whether it was very subtle and gradual. Is there a missing link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - Can always expect you to have the answers! The 1940 duck is to all intents and purposes the modern duck, as any changes since then have just been tweaks. I'm more curious whether the change from the primordial duck (1934) to cro-magnon duck (1940) was gradual, or did Donald one day suddenly transform from a clear 1934-based model into something that was clearly the 1940 model? It'd be interesting to see portrayals of Donald throughout the intervening years to see if there was a clear and abrupt transformative moment or whether it was very subtle and gradual. Is there a missing link? If no else answers your question, I do have the Disney Treasures series of the duck cartoons from 34 - 41 so I'll be able to answer it in a week or so. I noticed when I was much younger how many cartoon characters went "round" during their development and became much less realistic. I assume that this is partly to appeal to young kids but it wouldn't surprise if there is some animation benefit from the shape change. A character based primarily on circles might be easier for a team to animate consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The character evolution in animation I am most familiar with is the change in how Tom (of T & Jerry) evolved over time. The original Tom has more wisps of hair in his coat and more color patches (think hands and paws) than his later incarnations. I always thought it came down to a cost control issues and that as production cycles increased as more cartoons were run off per year, the drawing had to be streamlined and could since all these features were not adding to the gag set-up of the feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selegue Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) More seriously, though not answering your question, this is a neat graphic - Can always expect you to have the answers! The 1940 duck is to all intents and purposes the modern duck, as any changes since then have just been tweaks. I'm more curious whether the change from the primordial duck (1934) to cro-magnon duck (1940) was gradual, or did Donald one day suddenly transform from a clear 1934-based model into something that was clearly the 1940 model? It'd be interesting to see portrayals of Donald throughout the intervening years to see if there was a clear and abrupt transformative moment or whether it was very subtle and gradual. Is there a missing link? Speaking of abrupt transformation, the 1934 duck oddly reminds me of Tod Browning's Freaks (2 years earlier). JPS Edited February 22, 2012 by selegue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangZoom Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I'm more curious whether the change from the primordial duck (1934) to cro-magnon duck (1940) was gradual, or did Donald one day suddenly transform from a clear 1934-based model into something that was clearly the 1940 model? It'd be interesting to see portrayals of Donald throughout the intervening years to see if there was a clear and abrupt transformative moment or whether it was very subtle and gradual. Is there a missing link? If it's any help, Wikipedia states: "In 1936, Donald was redesigned to be a bit fuller, rounder, and cuter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
