Who has the better villains and heroes: Marvel or DC?

[gino2paulus2]

Granny "for" Goodness "sake" Not JKs greatest creation there. I'm calling VETO on that one just for the sake of my DC brethren's pride.

That's because "you don't know Granny the way we do".

 

 

 

Seen em both...Own the Smallville DVDs in fact it's one of my passwords as my fav all time show at work Let's face it...Granny was the weakest creepiest link in both live action and animation

 

 

 

[Thawk]

Tough question to answer without bias.

 

I think the DC villains are fantastic - though Batman really owns a massive chunk of them. Seems to me Marvel may have a higher number of recognizable villains to select from, while DC has more with real story and depth. If you look at stories like Long Halloween and Hush, they essentially introduce a different top tier villain every issue (sometimes more than one) and there is no shortage of quality or relatively well known back story on any of them.

 

Antimonitor

Darkseid

Lex Luthor

Brainiac

Doomsday

General Zod

Mr Freeze

Penguin

Riddler

Catwoman

Harley Quinn

Joker

Scarecrow

Poison Ivy

Two Face

Bane

Ra's & Talia al Ghul

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)

Black Adam

Reverse Flash

Flash Rogues (Captain Cold)

Deathstroke

Sinestro

 

All top tier (many used in movies or TV at some point)

 

[Ken Aldred]

Granny "for" Goodness "sake" Not JKs greatest creation there. I'm calling VETO on that one just for the sake of my DC brethren's pride.

That's because "you don't know Granny the way we do".

 

That's a great fight scene from Apocalypse

 

The absurdity of Granny's character is what makes it work so well. I always wondered where the inspiration came from.

 

Her voice is a bit deep and croaky at times in that animated clip. Makes you wonder if there wasn't some gender reassignment in the past? Grandad Goodness?

[Johnny U]

Granny "for" Goodness "sake" Not JKs greatest creation there. I'm calling VETO on that one just for the sake of my DC brethren's pride.

That's because "you don't know Granny the way we do".

 

That's a great fight scene from Apocalypse

 

The absurdity of Granny's character is what makes it work so well. I always wondered where the inspiration came from.

 

Her voice is a bit deep and croaky at times in that animated clip. Makes you wonder if there wasn't some gender reassignment in the past? Grandad Goodness?

 

I was thinking the same thing.

[Johnny U]

Looks like the heroes voting is lopsided, Marvel by a lot.

[Batman]

Looks like the heroes voting is lopsided, Marvel by a lot.

Batman. Superman. Case closed

 

DC wins heroes & villains

[mystrymachine]

It's hard for me to choose between the two. As far as villains go, DC has some great ones that others have already listed. Add Bizzaro and Soloman Grundy to the list.

But DC outnumbers Marvel for their amount of silly villains so I would probably choose Marvel over DC.

As far as heroes are concerned I really have to flip a coin. I chose Marvel in the poll just because of the variety of looks they have whereas most of DC's heroes are the generic spandex wearing heroes, Marvel has been more creative in the designs of their characters and their outfits.

But overall there is much to like about both publishers. The focus of my collecting is always going back and forth from Marvel to DC depending on what I had for breakfast that morning.

[Johnny U]

Looks like the heroes voting is lopsided, Marvel by a lot.

Batman. Superman. Case closed

 

DC wins heroes & villains

 

[Johnny U]

It's hard for me to choose between the two. As far as villains go, DC has some great ones that others have already listed. Add Bizzaro and Soloman Grundy to the list.

But DC outnumbers Marvel for their amount of silly villains so I would probably choose Marvel over DC.

As far as heroes are concerned I really have to flip a coin. I chose Marvel in the poll just because of the variety of looks they have whereas most of DC's heroes are the generic spandex wearing heroes, Marvel has been more creative in the designs of their characters and their outfits.

But overall there is much to like about both publishers. The focus of my collecting is always going back and forth from Marvel to DC depending on what I had for breakfast that morning.

 

I'm in the same boat with the heroes. I really do go back and forth a lot. I try to keep my collection diversified between the two.

[Davenport]

As far as heroes are concerned I really have to flip a coin. I chose Marvel in the poll just because of the variety of looks they have whereas most of DC's heroes are the generic spandex wearing heroes, Marvel has been more creative in the designs of their characters and their outfits.

That aspect is probably a thread unto itself. something that's currently underestimated. Plus readership is all over the map today.

 

But a consistent "look & feel" works as both worldbuilding and branding. I know as a kid we could spot a Curt Swan DC cover from across the store. Superman, LSH, whatever. Instantly recognizable. They got our money while Marvel looked somewhat alien (except for Daredevil).

Standing at the spinner rack it was 'Heroes and a world of tomorrow' vs Marvels freaks and monsters.

[Dale Roberts]

Tough question to answer without bias.

 

I think the DC villains are fantastic - though Batman really owns a massive chunk of them. Seems to me Marvel may have a higher number of recognizable villains to select from, while DC has more with real story and depth. If you look at stories like Long Halloween and Hush, they essentially introduce a different top tier villain every issue (sometimes more than one) and there is no shortage of quality or relatively well known back story on any of them.

 

Antimonitor

Darkseid

Lex Luthor

Brainiac

Doomsday

General Zod

Mr Freeze

Penguin

Riddler

Catwoman

Harley Quinn

Joker

Scarecrow

Poison Ivy

Two Face

Bane

Ra's & Talia al Ghul

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)

Black Adam

Reverse Flash

Flash Rogues (Captain Cold)

Deathstroke

Sinestro

 

All top tier (many used in movies or TV at some point)

 

Just because they have been used in tv or movies, doesn't make them good. I would remove the above guys as top tier. Bane I guess might be but sort of a one trick pony.

[zosocane]

Marvel has Galactus. DC doesn't. End of story.

[Gotham Kid]

DC villains, Marvel Superheroes

[Batman]

Tough question to answer without bias.

 

I think the DC villains are fantastic - though Batman really owns a massive chunk of them. Seems to me Marvel may have a higher number of recognizable villains to select from, while DC has more with real story and depth. If you look at stories like Long Halloween and Hush, they essentially introduce a different top tier villain every issue (sometimes more than one) and there is no shortage of quality or relatively well known back story on any of them.

 

Antimonitor

Darkseid

Lex Luthor

Brainiac

Doomsday

General Zod

Mr Freeze

Penguin

Riddler

Catwoman

Harley Quinn

Joker

Scarecrow

Poison Ivy

Two Face

Bane

Ra's & Talia al Ghul

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)

Black Adam

Reverse Flash

Flash Rogues (Captain Cold)

Deathstroke

Sinestro

 

All top tier (many used in movies or TV at some point)

 

Just because they have been used in tv or movies, doesn't make them good. I would remove the above guys as top tier. Bane I guess might be but sort of a one trick pony.

Mr Freeze, Penguin, Riddler & Scarecrow are top tier in my book Three of them have been around since the Golden Age and all are well established in Batman's Rogues Gallery.

 

Bane on the other hand... Not a fan

[Ebel 1911]

Tough question to answer without bias.

 

I think the DC villains are fantastic - though Batman really owns a massive chunk of them. Seems to me Marvel may have a higher number of recognizable villains to select from, while DC has more with real story and depth. If you look at stories like Long Halloween and Hush, they essentially introduce a different top tier villain every issue (sometimes more than one) and there is no shortage of quality or relatively well known back story on any of them.

 

Antimonitor

Darkseid

Lex Luthor

Brainiac

Doomsday

General Zod

Mr Freeze

Penguin

Riddler

Catwoman

Harley Quinn

Joker

Scarecrow

Poison Ivy

Two Face

Bane

Ra's & Talia al Ghul

Vandal Savage

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)

Black Adam

Reverse Flash

Flash Rogues (Captain Cold)

Deathstroke

Sinestro

 

All top tier (many used in movies or TV at some point)

 

Just because they have been used in tv or movies, doesn't make them good. I would remove the above guys as top tier. Bane I guess might be but sort of a one trick pony.

Mr Freeze, Penguin, Riddler & Scarecrow are top tier in my book Three of them have been around since the Golden Age and all are well established in Batman's Rogues Gallery.

 

Bane on the other hand... Not a fan

 

Bane & Doomsday were both one-shots to me. I see the debate as basically the Batman villains plus maybe Luthor & Reverse Flash versus the Marvel Universe of villains. I like both DC & Marvel but have been always more of a Marvel fan. Batman has always been the main DC hero that showed the depth of Marvel characters to me so it makes sense he's got the best stable of DC enemies.

 

If it was about picking a single villain then I'd probably go with DC since Joker is thoroughly a villain with no redeeming qualities. Many times though I think DC villains are more criminals with super powers that help them make money while Marvel villains are more those who enjoy using their abilities to destroy or cause chaos, with money being secondary to the trouble they create. That's what makes a better villain for me.

[Batman]

...If it was about picking a single villain then I'd probably go with DC since Joker is thoroughly a villain with no redeeming qualities...

Well put, sir.

[kav]

Composite Superman would wipe out Every single marvel character without breaking a sweat. Hell Element Lad alone would just turn everyone into Helium.

[comicartfan]

DC villains, Marvel Superheroes

 

I am biased to DC (Batman, JLA, WW, etc...) but I think Peter is right on the money here

[Johnny U]

DC villains, Marvel Superheroes

 

I am biased to DC (Batman, JLA, WW, etc...) but I think Peter is right on the money here

 

Agreed, Peter has it right .

[Batman]

DC villains, Marvel Superheroes

 

I am biased to DC (Batman, JLA, WW, etc...) but I think Peter is right on the money here

 

Agreed, Peter has it right .

Great thread you started here, Johnny. There's nothing better than a good DC vs Marvel discussion

 

But you're all wrong... It's DC for both. And I think your poll's broken or something