Turtle Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I propose that we name the various versions of the CGC cases so we can all be on the same page in discussions. Since the new cases were introduced last year and subsequently modified, I keep hearing terms like "old", "old new", and "new new". Here's my proposed naming convention: Generation 1 (Gen 1) - First cases released by CGC. These we around when the modern label was red and the grade was small and in the center of the label. Generation 2 (Gen 2) - These are what were used when the label was changed to have the grade in the upper left corner and used all the way until April 2016 when the next cases were introduced. At the time of this writing, this is the most common case in circulation. Generation 3 (Gen 3) - These cases were rolled out in April 2016 along with a new label format which among other things featured Page Quality underneath the numerical grade. Due to a few issues like Newton Rings, these were redesigned a few months later. Generation 4 (Gen 4) - These are the current cases that resulted from modifying Gen 3 cases to help address Newton Ring issues. There was no change to the label between Gen 3 and Gen 4. What are your thoughts? Good idea? Bad idea? Modification suggestions? Feel free to share your thoughts. If someone could chime in and let me know when the "old labels" changed to the more modern looking labels, I'd appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'd call 'em: CGC Classic CGC New CGC PQ CGC Turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It looks like the Gen 2 label was rolled out in early August, 2003. (There may have been some changes to the inner well even before the label changed, but I'm not sure.) http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/231273/site_id/1#import Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc McCoy Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Turtle said: What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMSHADOW_80 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Sounds good +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My young Padawan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I typically refer to them as the original holder, old holder, original new holder and new holder. I can certainly understand any confusion that may result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Turtle said: Generation 1 (Gen 1) - First cases released by CGC. These we around when the modern label was red and the grade was small and in the center of the label. Moderns were both red and blue during this Generation. I don't know if that's what you intended. There are small grade blue moderns. Edited February 10, 2017 by valiantman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spideyfan68 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 5 hours ago, JazzMan said: I'd call 'em: CGC Classic CGC New CGC PQ CGC Turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My young Padawan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, valiantman said: Moderns were both red and blue during this Generation. I don't know if that's what you intended. There are small grade blue moderns. What did the red label indicate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Red labels were originally designated for moderns, back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaptain Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 This list is not complete. Gen 2 had either a solid inner well, no solid inner well and a "thick" variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul © ® ⚽️💙™ Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Why not just ask CGC to chip in? Surely their answer would be the definitive one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpiercy Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 12 hours ago, My young Padawan said: What did the red label indicate? Inflammation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My young Padawan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 18 hours ago, JazzMan said: Red labels were originally designated for moderns, back in the day. Got it. Thank you for the reply, JazzMan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sChild Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Maybe its just me, but I have seen some gen 2 slabs without inner wells, there must have been several changes in that 13 year time-span. Anyone know what they were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, 90sChild said: Maybe its just me, but I have seen some gen 2 slabs without inner wells, there must have been several changes in that 13 year time-span. Anyone know what they were? No such thing. All early slabs have inner wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelangelo Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 gen 4 sounds better than 'new new cases' so I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggy Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Adam, you are such a dork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sChild Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 3 hours ago, JazzMan said: No such thing. All early slabs have inner wells. You made me feel like a crazy person because I remember seeing clear differences. I went back and looked at my cases. I noticed all my silver-age stuff had a very pronounced inner-well, and anything bronze or newer had a very flat-pressed looking well to it. I wouldn't really call these inner wells, it looks more like a plastic seam to me. Well here's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, 90sChild said: You made me feel like a crazy person because I remember seeing clear differences. I went back and looked at my cases. I noticed all my silver-age stuff had a very pronounced inner-well, and anything bronze or newer had a very flat-pressed looking well to it. I wouldn't really call these inner wells, it looks more like a plastic seam to me. Well here's the difference. They are still inner wells, there's different types and it doesn't depend on the period of time, it just seems situational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
