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[Speedy-D]

Is it me, or are asking prices going up? The last few listings I've looked at have had prices ~$100 above GPA for comics in the $200 - $500 range, for not really any reason.

 

I can think of a reason. Are they also asking the buyer to pick up their PP fees? I know we've beaten that one to death but I still find it annoying.

 

Edited to add: Also seems like there's a lot more flipping or maybe I'm just noticing it more. Somebody gets a deal on eBay and their first thought is to sell it here at a stiff markup.

Yup. I still give those listings a pass.

Oh-MY!

[Kevin.J]

Is it me, or are asking prices going up? The last few listings I've looked at have had prices ~$100 above GPA for comics in the $200 - $500 range, for not really any reason.

 

I can think of a reason. Are they also asking the buyer to pick up their PP fees? I know we've beaten that one to death but I still find it annoying.

 

Edited to add: Also seems like there's a lot more flipping or maybe I'm just noticing it more. Somebody gets a deal on eBay and their first thought is to sell it here at a stiff markup.

Yup. I still give those listings a pass.

 

Me too, even a book that I want badly, $100 , $90 + pp fees, you can stick it up your ter.

There is just something about wanting the fees that winds me right up.

Just up the asking price to the total you want, pay your own fees and its all good.

[Dr. Balls]

So ... are mystery boxes the new way for all the cool kids to get rid of the books they speculated on (and lost)?

 

 

+1

 

Still not sure why those are so popular, but they are. I tried my own Bronze Age Mystery Box thread, and sold my two boxes of stuff (for much less than I should have).

[paperheart]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

Edited June 24, 2013 by paperheart

[Speedy-D]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

[zzutak]

I sure am getting tired of sellers pushing Qualified (green label) books with missing pages as anything other than what they really are. This particular defect is not open to debate. Books with missing pages (story or non-story) are POOR. It doesn't matter whether it received a grade of Qualified 9.0 or Qualified 2.0.

 

Attention all potential buyers: if a book is missing one or more pages, it's in POOR condition (that's CGC 0.5 for you young'uns out there).

 

 

[thehumantorch]

link?

[Speedy-D]

Some sellers I just don't like.

[Awax]

Some sellers I just don't like.

 

Link?

[Speedy-D]

Some sellers I just don't like.

 

Link?

[miraclemet]

I sure am getting tired of sellers pushing Qualified (green label) books with missing pages as anything other than what they really are. This particular defect is not open to debate. Books with missing pages (story or non-story) are POOR. It doesn't matter whether it received a grade of Qualified 9.0 or Qualified 2.0.

 

Attention all potential buyers: if a book is missing one or more pages, it's in POOR condition (that's CGC 0.5 for you young'uns out there).

 

 

zz you totally get the right to your position on qualified grading, but we're on a CGC site, and CGC uses the qualified grade, so is it not surprising that marketplace sellers might reference the same grading reference (Ive never sold a book that was or would be qualified in its grade).

 

Is your beef more directly with CGC's use of the qualified grade, when (it sounds) like you dont think books with missing pages should be allowed a qualified grade?

 

bottom line, CGC does it, so its hard to take beef if people list a qualified grade, and note the defects, when the grading lines up with what CGC would do.

 

[again zz you TOTALLY have the right to this opinion, I just think you can see where listing a qualified grade can be rationalized considering where we are]

[paperheart]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6802762#Post6802762

[Green]

I think his beef is that sellers are pricing the books much closer to the grade that CGC lets you pretend it is rather than the grade it actually is.

 

 

[Speedy-D]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6802762#Post6802762

Yeesh. He's also got the PP 3%, and prices 25% above his own quoted GPA.

[Bomber-Bob]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6802762#Post6802762

Yeesh. He's also got the PP 3%, and prices 25% above his own quoted GPA.

 

This seller really annoyed me when I saw his sales tactics. Quoting GPA on raw books is bad enough but his grading was terrible. He was giving a 9.4, highest graded, to a book with the BC coupon filled in. I can't believe somebody actually bought a book from this guy.

 

Action 258 9.4 last gpa 9.2 for $1005 this would be highest graded my price $1344

[Speedy-D]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6802762#Post6802762

Yeesh. He's also got the PP 3%, and prices 25% above his own quoted GPA.

 

This seller really annoyed me when I saw his sales tactics. Quoting GPA on raw books is bad enough but his grading was terrible. He was giving a 9.4, highest graded, to a book with the BC coupon filled in. I can't believe somebody actually bought a book from this guy.

 

Action 258 9.4 last gpa 9.2 for $1005 this would be highest graded my price $1344

It would be highest graded, if it weren't lower grade. :shrug:

[joecgcmaniac]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

link?

 

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6802762#Post6802762

Yeesh. He's also got the PP 3%, and prices 25% above his own quoted GPA.

 

This seller really annoyed me when I saw his sales tactics. Quoting GPA on raw books is bad enough but his grading was terrible. He was giving a 9.4, highest graded, to a book with the BC coupon filled in. I can't believe somebody actually bought a book from this guy.

 

Action 258 9.4 last gpa 9.2 for $1005 this would be highest graded my price $1344

It would be highest graded, if it weren't lower grade. :shrug:

 

I'd be rich if only I had a few million dollars.

[zzutak]

Is your beef more directly with CGC's use of the qualified grade

I have absolutely no beef with CGC's use of Qualified Grades.

 

I think his beef is that sellers are pricing the books much closer to the grade that CGC lets you pretend it is rather than the grade it actually is.

Close, but not quite.

 

As far as I'm concerned, a seller has the right to ask whatever he/she wants for a book, regardless of whether that book is CGC-certified (blue, green, purple, yellow) or raw. However, if a seller has a book that's received a green label because it's missing one or more pages, it's flat-out deceptive to quote GPA for a blue label book of the same grade, a purple label book of the same grade, or even another green label book of the same grade which is qualified because of another defect (such as a blown staple, a detached centerfold, or an unwitnessed creator signature).

 

Buyers around here need to understand that books with missing pages are in POOR condition. It doesn't matter whether the book is raw or carries a CGC grade of Qualified 9.0. Do not be taken in by any seller who suggests otherwise. That is all.

 

[Kevin.J]

Jay, telling it like it is

[EC ed]

now we've got to press books to reach the grades advertised in a sales thread?

This is indeed disturbing. May be too early to call it a trend, but I've noticed an increasing number of raw listings where a seller seems to be asking more than the value of a book in its current grade because of pressing potential (for example, a seller might list a book as a 7.0 and point out that it could probably press higher, and then post a BIN price as if it's a 7.5'ish). If you think about human nature, this would almost have been a predictable consequence of the introduction of pressing into the marketplace - it's a shame - I really hope that the majority of us comic collectors resist this nonsense so that it doesn't become the norm...