grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Got this book a few weeks ago with what appears to be either sun fade or an absence of reds from the bottom cover. Not sure what is going because the other colors don't seem to be faded also had me wanted to ask the question. How do you tell the difference between sun fade and printing errors? Here is the book Edited April 18, 2017 by grayzr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadleg Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'm leaning towards printing error. There is no red text in the bottom left bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Thing is it wouldn't be too difficult to fade it. Just cover the top portion and leave the bottom exposed to the sun. Toss up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 thats what I was thinking too. The way the colors are messed up does not seem to be faded. Usually I can easily tell when a color is just faded but this one is beyond me. I showed it to another experienced local dealer and he said it looks like some kind of printing error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 the trash can colors seem to be consistent throughout yet the entire speech bubble is missing red ink almost entirely. The color of the yellow is also the same as the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) That cannot be sun fade. The red from the circular text box is gone. The woman's dress isn't red anymore but the shoes remain yellow. Even the ground is yellow Edited April 18, 2017 by Jerkfro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Just now, Jerkfro said: That cannot be sun fade. The red from the circular text box is gone. The woman's dress isn't red anymore but the shoes remain yellow That reminds me, I should post a picture of what is should look like for those who have never seen the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadleg Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) The shadowing on Moon Knight's leg is still dark black. The trash can is also still dark blue with black shadowing from where it begins on the middle of the cover and to the end of it near the bottom of the cover. If it was a fade, everything on the bottom part of the cover would have an even fade. It's a pretty cool printing error! Hope you keep it. Edited April 18, 2017 by deadleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Has to be a printing error. Pretty cool actually, I've not seen this with this book before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It's a sun fade on the exposed portion of the book. Different colors fade at different rates; red is first, blue is the last to go. A printing error would result in a loss of red across the entire cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pontoon said: It's a sun fade on the exposed portion of the book. Different colors fade at different rates; red is first, blue is the last to go. A printing error would result in a loss of red across the entire cover. This is my line of thinking also. Selective sun fade based on exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Also, I bet the back cover is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Tricky one. I used to collect printing errors (see 'CELEBRATE THE MANUFACTURING ERRORS' for a few of them). I've seen printing errors where one colour is missing from only part of the book but usually because either something got in the way, or the ink run low. It's really difficult without having the book in hand, but my instinct is saying colour fade. The book has probably been displayed somewhere where the light has struck only the lower part of the book, hence no distinctly visible red colour interruption line. Either way, a cracking book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Tough call, the if it's fading, the other colors are still so punchy. Any chance of seeing the back cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomtown Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Looks like the yellow was printed in the wrong order and ended up printing over the magenta plate. It's not noticeable on the top because the black overprints all the other colors and hides the mix up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 heres the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayzr Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Also since front and back cover are up what grade do you guys think it is? Im thinking 4.5-5.5? not sure how the fade/error or what ever it is would effect the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Here's a printing error: Get Marwood & I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Or even this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, grayzr said: heres the back That bottom quarter is pretty toasty, which is what you'd expect from a book that has been getting hit from a light source like the sun over time. porcupine48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...