SquareChaos Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Comics have "worked blue" for a very long time, and they will continue to do so. There are entire publishers that put out little more than familiar stories recast as softcore porn. This cover goes further than anything I've seen from a major publisher, but why should it really be treated any different just because the graphic imagery isn't hiding between the pages? This way seems more honest to me, and it doesn't bother me. It obviously isn't intended for children, though I know some still see a funny book and immediately think someone is out to corrupt the minds of our youth, but I can't imagine we have any of those here. deadleg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnboxingTreasures Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, deadleg said: No but, the images displayed inside the books are just as graphic at some points. CGC looks through the whole book when grading, not just the cover so, I still don't see why they wouldn't grade this. Can you link me to the section of their policy where it states that they wouldn't grade this? The references to books like Cherry are valid points. I'm not sure why CGC grades those. But I've been told in the past they won't grade Hustler magazines either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JcomicJ Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Any chance a cgc rep could give a response on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadleg Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Quickest way to get an answer is to call CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehorseshoe Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 13 hours ago, NamesJay said: Did they have pornography on the covers? Its good the United States Supreme Court and the citizens of this country have you to decide an issue that they frankly could not decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill1 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Never even occurred to me that posting a pic of the book we are talking about would get it pulled, since we are a comic book discussion place, and presumably all adults. No big deal, though. Wouldn't want to offend anyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadleg Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, Bill1 said: Never even occurred to me that posting a pic of the book we are talking about would get it pulled, since we are a comic book discussion place, and presumably all adults. No big deal, though. Wouldn't want to offend anyone.... Was it the Censored cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill1 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, deadleg said: Was it the Censored cover? It was the cover for 225. It had nudity. Don't know if it was called the censored cover or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Have any of the Boundless comics been slabbed? Some of the adult covers are way more extreme than the Savage Dragon cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 CGC won't grade books that feature penetration or explicit pornography on the cover - nudity, however, is fine. At WW Chicago, one guy tried to submit this book and was told they wouldn't slab it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 On 9/1/2017 at 6:38 AM, bluehorseshoe said: On 8/31/2017 at 5:28 PM, NamesJay said: Did they have pornography on the covers? Its good the United States Supreme Court and the citizens of this country have you to decide an issue that they frankly could not decide. "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, divad said: "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." If I don't see it,is it really there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealVenom Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 My friend had Larson sign a SD 225 at fan expo. We talked to the cgc rep there in charge and were told ultimately it's up to the grader. He took a chance and subbed it anyways. So I'll know in a couple weeks if it hits graded status I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 2 hours ago, TheRealVenom said: My friend had Larson sign a SD 225 at fan expo. We talked to the cgc rep there in charge and were told ultimately it's up to the grader. He took a chance and subbed it anyways. So I'll know in a couple weeks if it hits graded status I suppose. Well at least they are consistent....wait...what? JTLarsen and JcomicJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareChaos Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 CGC refusing to slab a comic book from a major publisher is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned - I don't care what content it has. They seem perfectly fine slabbing war-time issues with racist depictions right on the cover, but they find cartoon lady bits too disagreeable? I hope they ended up slabbing that copy from Fan Expo that @TheRealVenom mentioned, please do keep us informed. oldmilwaukee6er, deadleg, JcomicJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealVenom Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 32 minutes ago, SquareChaos said: CGC refusing to slab a comic book from a major publisher is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned - I don't care what content it has. They seem perfectly fine slabbing war-time issues with racist depictions right on the cover, but they find cartoon lady bits too disagreeable? I hope they ended up slabbing that copy from Fan Expo that @TheRealVenom mentioned, please do keep us informed. From what I was told they have an anti-penetration policy. There is none on this cover so shouldn't be an issue as far as I'm concerned. The books by boundless tho they won't touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareChaos Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 21 hours ago, TheRealVenom said: From what I was told they have an anti-penetration policy. There is none on this cover so shouldn't be an issue as far as I'm concerned. The books by boundless tho they won't touch. Having a line is understandable, and I know that line will need to be drawn somewhat arbitrarily, so I can accept this policy if it is their boundary. An earlier post mentioned that it may be up to the discretion of the individual grader... something I find absurd. You shouldn't run a business like that. Looking forward to hear how this all turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 hours ago, SquareChaos said: Having a line is understandable, and I know that line will need to be drawn somewhat arbitrarily, so I can accept this policy if it is their boundary. An earlier post mentioned that it may be up to the discretion of the individual grader... something I find absurd. You shouldn't run a business like that. Looking forward to hear how this all turns out. Agreed. Having a company policy is one thing, but leaving it to the individual grader seems wrongheaded, if it's true. Personal morality should have no bearing in doing your job in this instance. Maybe I'll start up my own Penetration Only grading service? Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadleg Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm sure you guys have seen the cover uncensored by now. Can we actually say it's "penetration" though? Sure the one lady just happens to be sitting on a certain area of Dragon's lap and the other lady is very much nude but we can't actually see physical penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealVenom Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just to update this, my buddy got an email from cgc. The book is being returned raw. Reason is explicit cover image. So no, CGC will not grade this book. At least Larson didn't charge him for a cgc witnesses signature. JcomicJ and F For Fake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
