skybolt Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Ricksneatstuff, Mmehdy and Badger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Was discussing the Church collection with a rare book seller. She was fascinated with it all. Her words were interesting to me: Wow! I am so intrigued. Thanks for sharing this. I only had time to read through to the end of the Mile High story, but I can't wait to read more. It actually does mimic the book collectors world a little bit in that pedigree can affect desirability. Usually because of the eye and taste of the collector themselves. This is such a fascinating story because the condition of the books relied so much on the original collector's instinct to leave them alone. Was it disinterest? Once he'd leafed through them and had gotten the information he needed for figure studies, did the stories themselves hold no more interest so could be relegated to an untouched compressed stack for decades? It's so strange that the original collector preserved them so well because he wasn't prone to looking at them! And now they're desirable because his inattention kept them pristine. I think it would take some great willpower to own one and never open it. If the colors are as sharp and bright as they say, if the pages are as supple, how could a true fan not want to flip through it daily?! I guess that's the difference between a fan and a collector. Like those guys who buy toys and never unbox them. Really interesting stuff, Kav. I'll read the rest when I get a chance. The key here is Edgar Church was not a fan. He had no interest at all in the comic stories. I would venture to say he never read a single comic book. He saw them as illustration resources. A handy time saver for his job. He kept them in case he ever needed them. It wasnt that he was trying to keep them in prisitine collection he probably wouldnt have cared if they got roughed up as long as he could see the images for his work. It was just a strange series of events that allowed this collection to survive. a guy who bought every single comic book every single month and was a bit fussy and didnt throw things out, a family that wanted them gone, and of course chuck rozanski. Here are some examples of his commercial illustration work: Yes, exactly! I can definitely see the comic influence in his art. Its just funny to me that his indifference to them actually benefitted true fans. It's kind of the perfect combination. And since he wasn't really passionate about them, there's also no great desire for the family to hold onto them, so the books could get into the hands of someone who could appreciate them. It's what we as booksellers dream of! PopKulture and Miamiknight3434 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 8/31/2017 at 7:46 AM, Timely said: And here is a picture of Edgar Church at the drawing board. Also is a picture of Edgar Church's house where the collection was stored. I'd seen his house but I do not recall ever seeing his picture before. Posting again for those who have never seen The Man, The Legend. Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I always find it interesting when people make definitive statements about what any historical figure was thinking based upon his actions (in this case, Edgar Church). The fact is, no one knows why he collected all of those books for all of those years, not even his descendants. There are some indications that he did look at them (having looked at his illustration work and how it evolved over the years). For all anyone knows, he carefully read each one when it came out and put it away. Or didn't. It's not something that is knowable. What I do know, is what Chuck R. says happened when he purchased the books and that the books are in remarkably fresh condition. I take the former with a grain of salt and I'm thankful for the latter. Everything else is just idle speculation. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 8/31/2017 at 5:46 AM, Timely said: And here is a picture of Edgar Church at the drawing board. Also is a picture of Edgar Church's house where the collection was stored. This might be what the family of the “Promise Collection” is trying to prevent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 9/3/2017 at 9:30 AM, Jayman said: I think Mr. B broke the Church machine! Here's my only poor man's entry. http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb71/Jaymanpics/Unseen9CGC5.0ChurchCopy.jpg ps: Glad you're ok Richard! Wow, I've never seen a Church with such a low grade! Mr. Lady Luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sarg said: Wow, I've never seen a Church with such a low grade! Only one I could afford! I think it was used as a bottom copy to carry the high grades out of the basement! Edited July 5, 2021 by Jayman Sarg and Mr. Lady Luck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I have a 6.0 Bob Colt that I got from HA years ago. Lot of 5 issues from 5.0-7.0 in one lot. Also basement floor copies. I used to have a 4.5 Gaines copy. Poor man’s pets. Mr. Lady Luck, Jayman, Randall Dowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I have very few Church books but was elated to have come across this funny animals Fox Giant Ribtickler. Complete with bondage and a skull 💀 cover 😂 Larryw7, Randall Dowling, Robot Man and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheetah Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, bounty_coder said: I have very few Church books but was elated to have come across this funny animals Fox Giant Ribtickler. Complete with bondage and a skull 💀 cover 😂 My old copy! jimjum12 and Randall Dowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, cheetah said: My old copy! 🙏🏼 You’ve had all the cool stuff! Wish I coulda got it from you. 🙃 cheetah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 4:39 PM, bounty_coder said: 🙏🏼 Wish I could a got it from you. 🙃 29 minutes of Chuck's hyperbole and back story to Edgar Church collection: Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/16/2021 at 10:33 PM, aardvark88 said: 29 minutes of Chuck's hyperbole and back story to Edgar Church collection: 11:37 "You also have to clean out the closet." In retrospect, the most remarkable sentence ever uttered to any comic collector, ever. Akin to saying, "You also have to clean out Tutankhamun's tomb." Robot Man, aardvark88 and Larryw7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Several Mile High books from my collection that I missed (links dropped or newer additions)... Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 You don't see pre-1940 Church books posted very often, except the DCs that RareHighGrade has. Any theory as to why that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 7:10 AM, Sarg said: You don't see pre-1940 Church books posted very often, except the DCs that RareHighGrade has. Any theory as to why that is? You'd have to look through the original Mile High catalog or database to verify, but I suspect quite a few exist in collections. My Church 'Tec #18 is from 1938, but it's also DC. Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 8:10 AM, Sarg said: You don't see pre-1940 Church books posted very often, except the DCs that RareHighGrade has. Any theory as to why that is? If you remove DC from the mix, there aren't a lot of pre-1940s comics period (mostly Dells). Famous Funnies, Super, some Features, King, etc. of the few hundred total books that qualify they turn up in about the same frequency as any other specific items from an 18,000 book collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...