Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 12 hours ago, SteppinRazor said: OTOH, every seller sold their first item with 0 feedback. True.But when a seller is offing $100+ books as their opener it's a red flag to watch out.I have purchased lower dollar books from first time sellers many times and had it work out just fine. But overtime I don't believe buying an Expensive book from someone with no proven history is a risk worth taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 20 hours ago, revat said: a lot of people take the risk thinking paypal protect them. and it some cases they do. but not in every instance. Did you have a bad experience? What happened if so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie999 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) If everyone on this board that had been ripped off on Ebay posted a single reply this thread would be hundreds of pages long. Edited October 20, 2017 by Mackenzie999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mackenzie999 said: If everyone on this board that had been ripped off on Ebay posted a single reply this thread would be hundreds of pages long. There actually is a are few threads about eBay issues, and they are about as long as one would expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Knightsofold said: #4 Has nothing to do with determining a seller's trustworthiness. Sellers get ripped off a lot as well, and we've even lost to ability to give negative feedback. I never give the buyer feedback untill they give me positive. They pay get your item and then can do so many things sellers are powerless to. Chargeback, forced returns, never recieved item claims, "not as described" refusal of package, send back a different broken item, buyers remorse, etc. All this after I gave positive feedback just cause they paid? No way. Feedback for buyers is pretty much useless unless it's super low anyway. And I thought I was the only seller that had all of that garbage happen to. . YUP ...would this be under the category of buyer's remorse? Just recently I had a winning bidder pay for the item, then send me a message that they had paid with the wrong credit card and could I please send them a refund. Then I could relist the item at the winning price and they would pay right away with the correct card. Yeah ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.. I comply, and now I have to submit a claim for disputed/non paid item to get the fees removed, once that is done then I can relist the item but only if I have the listing room to do so( I didn't ) so then I had to contact Ebay to request higher selling limits ) which Ebay gave me but it was insufficient to relist the item so I had to contact them again to request another increase and I was told Ebay only allowed one increase per monthly cycle so I explained why I needed higher limits and finally some higher level person was able to renegotiate my selling limits and THEN I was able to relist the item and I contacted that buyer and I never heard from him again. I can't leave negative feedback, so basically that buyer just caused me a bunch of hassle and it cost me about 4 hours of my time ( why does Ebay make it so hard to contact them?). So annoying. Thankfully I did sell the item to the next highest bidder via the "second chance offer". Edited October 20, 2017 by Artboy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Artboy99 said: And I thought I was the only seller that had all of that garbage happen to. . YUP ...would this be under the category of buyer's remorse? Just recently I had a winning bidder pay for the item, then send me a message that they had paid with the wrong credit card and could I please send them a refund. Then I could relist the item at the winning price and they would pay right away with the correct card. Yeah ok, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.. I comply, and now I have to submit a claim for disputed/non paid item to get the fees removed, once that is done then I can relist the item but only if I have the listing room to do so( I didn't ) so then I had to contact Ebay to request higher selling limits ) which Ebay gave me but it was insufficient to relist the item so I had to contact them again to request another increase and I was told Ebay only allowed one increase per monthly cycle so I explained why I needed higher limits and finally some higher level person was able to renegotiate my selling limits and THEN I was able to relist the item and I contacted that buyer and I never heard from him again. I can't leave negative feedback, so basically that buyer just caused me a bunch of hassle and it cost me about 4 hours of my time ( why does Ebay make it so hard to contact them?). So annoying. Thankfully I did sell the item to the next highest bidder via the "second chance offer". That sounds awful..and complex...how much$ was this item listed for.You an get a direct line to Ebay through twitter and facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pizzafist said: That sounds awful..and complex...how much$ was this item listed for.You an get a direct line to Ebay through twitter and facebook. slightly over $1000 Contacting Ebay through Ebay.ca requires that I go through a questionnaire to streamline my request and perhaps to find a solution on the site rather than speak to a real person. In the case of increasing my seller limits the second time I could not find a way to get to the "contact Ebay and here is the calling code" screen so I had to choose a route that got me that result. Took me some time. Was very annoying. Edited October 20, 2017 by Artboy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 hours ago, SteppinRazor said: OTOH, every seller sold their first item with 0 feedback. 0 seller feedback anyway, but they probably weren't selling an AF #15 either. Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, Artboy99 said: slightly over $1000 That's more than I've ever dealt with,I guess I would have clicked on the "cancel transaction" link to the right of your item under "items sold" in your my ebay. You would still give the refund but the transaction would be closed automatically by Ebay fairly quick ,even if the fake buyer does not reply. Some buyers are just plain terrible.I'm sorry this happened to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pizzafist said: That's more than I've ever dealt with,I guess I would have clicked on the "cancel transaction" link to the right of your item under "items sold" in your my ebay. You would still give the refund but the transaction would be closed automatically by Ebay fairly quick ,even if the fake buyer does not reply. Some buyers are just plain terrible.I'm sorry this happened to you. Can you cancel a transaction that has been paid for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, Artboy99 said: Can you cancel a transaction that has been paid for? Yes,very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pizzafist said: Yes,very easily. Yes but then is that the correct way to do this? My way while more time consuming is the "right way" is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Mecrabs said: Unless they were smart and built up their feedback by buying stuff first. #2 MAKE SURE THE SELLER ACTUALLY HAS "SELLER" feedback ,not just "BUYER" feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Then where is it OK to start trusting a seller? I have about a 140 rating. I started where everyone else does, and like most have about a 2/3 return on my feedback, so that number should really be higher. Everyone must start at nothing, so when do you start trusting a seller? Granted most of what I have sold is in the $75 to $150 rang but have a few sales well above that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 48 minutes ago, drotto said: Then where is it OK to start trusting a seller? I have about a 140 rating. I started where everyone else does, and like most have about a 2/3 return on my feedback, so that number should really be higher. Everyone must start at nothing, so when do you start trusting a seller? Granted most of what I have sold is in the $75 to $150 rang but have a few sales well above that. agreed. have to develop a feedback. To me feedback as a buyer is also important. Reveals the character of the individual. Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 9:13 AM, Artboy99 said: Yes but then is that the correct way to do this? My way while more time consuming is the "right way" is it not? I think it would be the correct way since the buyer wanted you to cancel the sale and relist.I can't see any problem with it.But I don't work for paypal so I can't be certain.I think it would have made things easier on you though...my two cents. Sounds like a lame buyer...I guess the only positive side might be the sale would be listed in Ebay history and might inspire others to buy the book for your price?...Maybe that's a reach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, drotto said: Then where is it OK to start trusting a seller? I have about a 140 rating. I started where everyone else does, and like most have about a 2/3 return on my feedback, so that number should really be higher. Everyone must start at nothing, so when do you start trusting a seller? Granted most of what I have sold is in the $75 to $150 rang but have a few sales well above that. Sounds like you're an honest seller and a credit to ebay. I hope they treat you fair. I personally give most sellers a chance when I'm buying unless the book seems too good to be true or they start off with pricey books right away...I would buy from you without thinking twice about it.As far as how many feedback make someone feel safe I guess that's a personal answer every buyer must decide on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 My way of not getting ripped off. I only deal with board members whom I trust and have a relationship with. doing this, I have yet to be ripped off. RidersRohan and Pizzafist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sChild Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Don't assume #3 is always fake transactions either. In my 15 years of buying there were several times I arranged locally to pick up an item the same day I paid for it. You can find nearby listings by sorting search results by distance. I will add my thoughts on safely selling: You cannot control who bids on your items so give up on putting things like "no bidders below x feedback". it is now against ebay rules and your listings will be cancelled. Anytime someone buys from you that you are uncertain of/do not know, take pictures of the item during and after packing the box, ALWAYS PAY FOR SIGNATURE CONFIRM and tracking. This along with the pictures will be your only defense against false chargeback/not-received claims. Edited October 23, 2017 by 90sChild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just don't buy for scam bay ..I mean e-bay...there are too many good comic book dealers and auction houses out there with plenty of material which you are sure to get. Pizzafist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
