Sqeggs Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, namisgr said: 7 minutes ago, Gotham Kid said: yes but when you look it up you have Grade Date:12/28/2017 Sure, they did a page quality review and changed it. They seem to have been tougher on pq then than they are now. But I'm wondering what the rationale is for no grader notes, particularly since there appears to be something important -- rusted staples -- to note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Spiderturtle said: So reholdering it, submitter can ask the “rusted staples” notes not mentioned on the front label? I have a book that has a note similar to that, thinking of reholdering to remove the pesky note.... They don't typically note things like that on the label anymore. So I don't think you need to specifically request it. "Tanning to inside covers" is another old label note that doesn't appear anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsp99 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sqeggs said: They seem to have been tougher on pq then than they are now. But I'm wondering what the rationale is for no grader notes, particularly since there appears to be something important -- rusted staples -- to note. All depends how rusty the staples were. Light surface rust can often be taken off while avoiding the "qualified" label......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tsp99 said: All depends how rusty the staples were. Light surface rust can often be taken off while avoiding the "qualified" label......... I guess I'm assuming that "rusted" is worse than "rusty" and can't really be fixed. But maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comics-rock Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Is this one of Vinny’s books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, namisgr said: Sure, they did a page quality review and changed it. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silver Surfer Posted March 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Sqeggs said: Grader Notes: None Available That's kind of annoying. Rusted staples, what rusted staples. Typical big dollar book manipulation. Mystafo, Larryw7, gino2paulus2 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 hours ago, comics-rock said: Is this one of Vinny’s books? If it's a CGC 8.5 grade with the "former" rusty staples, would this be Danny Kramer's old copy before he left the hobby? I remember Danny really stormed onto the scene back in 1994 or thereabouts and was like a sponge in asking questions and soaking up as much knowledge as he could, at the same time as scooping up as many nice quality books as he could. Like many other collectors with deep pockets like that, he didn't stay around for the long term and was pretty much done with chasing down books after a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: what's the scoop ? Peter; Is this the scoop from Scoop that you are referring to : http://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1014?ArticleID=209106 Looks like they are going to name it the Second City Collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lou_fine said: 11 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: what's the scoop ? Peter; Is this the scoop from Scoop that you are referring to : http://scoop.previewsworld.com/Home/4/1/73/1014?ArticleID=209106 Looks like they are going to name it the Second City Collection. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Wow ! "Collectors will be fighting over copies of Detective Comics #27 CGC 8.5 R and #33 CGC 9.2, Amazing Fantasy #15 CGC 7.5, Avengers #1 CGC 9.6, #2 CGC 9.8, and #4 CGC 9.6 (from a near complete Avengers run), Captain America Comics #1 CGC 7.5" So the collection was not only made up of high grade restored copies but also high grade universal copies of same books as well. First batch of books auctioned off https://www.comicconnect.com/load_page.php?page=EAXXXIV_SecondCity Edited March 25, 2018 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_react Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Sqeggs said: They don't typically note things like that on the label anymore. So I don't think you need to specifically request it. "Tanning to inside covers" is another old label note that doesn't appear anymore. The gradig type notes on the label are long gone. More than 10 years gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 hours ago, G.A.tor said: 19 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: what's the scoop ? Owner passed away Gator; Would you know if this is Kramer's former copy of Action 1 that he used to owned before he left the hobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 hours ago, Kevin76 said: 15 hours ago, thedude said: this is the former old label 8.5 "Rusted staples" ow/white right? I mean it's got the same two little specks by the "N" in Action. Bump in page quality, most likely pressed with no change in grade Maybe it's just the angle of the 2 photos, but the spine portion on the white part of the logo now seems to be a lot whiter than it was in the old slab. gino2paulus2 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, rob_react said: 15 hours ago, Sqeggs said: They don't typically note things like that on the label anymore. So I don't think you need to specifically request it. "Tanning to inside covers" is another old label note that doesn't appear anymore. The gradig type notes on the label are long gone. More than 10 years gone The only two that I can think of that have survived for blue labels are "detached cover" and "detached centerfold." Of course, for C, G, and R labels, the label contains more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Maybe it's just the angle of the 2 photos, but the spine portion on the white part of the logo now seems to be a lot whiter than it was in the old slab. The portion to the right of Action Comics also does. I have a feeling it's the quality of Gator's photo. I think when we see a higher res photo at some point it will reflect the less than white look more. If not though, then something was done lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comics-rock Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 9 hours ago, lou_fine said: If it's a CGC 8.5 grade with the "former" rusty staples, would this be Danny Kramer's old copy before he left the hobby? I remember Danny really stormed onto the scene back in 1994 or thereabouts and was like a sponge in asking questions and soaking up as much knowledge as he could, at the same time as scooping up as many nice quality books as he could. Like many other collectors with deep pockets like that, he didn't stay around for the long term and was pretty much done with chasing down books after a few years. Meant a Zurzolo sale. But he put it on Facebook shortly after I posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Vincent e-mailed me Friday and said nothing on the Action 1 8.5 I can not afford that copy but the first to get the scoop would have been nice . Edited March 25, 2018 by woowoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Was this the last sale of the book? http://itsalljustcomics.com/2010/03/29/action-comics-1-cgc-8-5-sells-for-1500000/ Or did it change hands once or more since 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...