1950's war comics Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 TWD #1 Museum Edition LE100, Ohio 2004 = FoggyNelson, Lucky Baru and ebtorres 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbalroman Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, ygogolak said: Check the last page for numbers on CGC graded counterfeits. And what does this have to do with my comment about PGX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 hours ago, ygogolak said: This was produced in 2004, shortly after the original issue came out. The first Image First was not until 2010. This was not created to capitalize on the value of TWD #1, it was worth that much then. These are proven counterfeits. Why would you think they're actually from 2004? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Juno Beach said: These are proven counterfeits. Why would you think they're actually from 2004? You're right. That story could be a farce as well. It seems to be the only information available, copy and pasted to all international eBay sites. There is one site that lists where the cover was supposedly printed. Again, all other info. is the same. Edited April 4, 2018 by ygogolak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 20 hours ago, Bill manship said: I bought one of these when they first came out.. paid 150$. So hopefully it's real! But reading all the info on it now is making me nervous. WTTB How did you get one when the "came out" if it was supposed never released? Where did you purchase it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 garbage book, who actually wastes their time on this Sensei Ryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill manship Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Ryan Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bill manship said: I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. If it's within 6 months maybe you can call your credit card company for a chargeback and return it to the seller. Contact them and ask them if they knew it was counterfeit - if they did then maybe they'll willingly refund you. If they didn't know maybe they can work something out with you. At any rate, anything more than $1 investment for novelty reasons (and for covering the cost of replicating ink on paper) - to me - is a waste on $ on this. So do whatever you can to get your $ back on this. I know that's what I would do, at least. Good luck, whatever you decide to do with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebtorres Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bill manship said: I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. Keep it. If you choose to resell it, be upfront about the fact that it's a counterfeit book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bill manship said: I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGH Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I don't see the problem with cgc grading it.. As long as they put a giant green label on it with incomplete grade and note whatever reprint / photocopy version it is and that the original cover has been removed and replaced by non official alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bill manship said: I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. I thought you bought it when it first came out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill manship Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It might be to late to return it but I will for sure be sending the seller a message. In the end I will probably just keep it. Didn't sink to much money in it. I bought it when it first came out on ebay. Before any were sent to pgx. Mine was 26/100. I did look threw the book. If it is a fake they did a good job making it. It does look like the first walking dead not image firsts. It had a 04 date in the credits in the front. I will post pictures here when I get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, Bill manship said: It might be to late to return it but I will for sure be sending the seller a message. In the end I will probably just keep it. Didn't sink to much money in it. I bought it when it first came out on ebay. Before any were sent to pgx. Mine was 26/100. I did look threw the book. If it is a fake they did a good job making it. It does look like the first walking dead not image firsts. It had a 04 date in the credits in the front. I will post pictures here when I get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Bill manship said: I'm still new to collecting. Buy the odd book to get it graded. This was one of the odd ones I bought just to get it graded. Rookie mistake not knowing cgc won't touch museum editions I sent it in to them. I should be getting it back from cgc this week. Most likely ungraded. When I get it back I will take tons of pics for everyone. I bought it from ebay like 6 months ago or longer.. before the price went crazy. Here's my question for everyone. What do I do with it now.. CGC grades museum editions. Interested to see what they do with this one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowchigabowwow Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I am really surprised that no one is talking about the Seller that profited off of unsuspecting buyers making thousands from a FAKE! The guy is a Comic Dealer...that's all he sells on eBay! He relied on his good reputation as a comic dealer with the help of PGX's awesome "authentication" to pass this off as a legit book. Judge for yourself...this was the last auction that ended before the most current one was pulled: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-1-PGX-9-8-NM-MT-RARE-2003-Museum-Edition-Variant-20-100-Like-CGC/162941121975?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bowchigabowwow said: I am really surprised that no one is talking about the Seller that profited off of unsuspecting buyers making thousands from a FAKE! The guy is a Comic Dealer...that's all he sells on eBay! He relied on his good reputation as a comic dealer with the help of PGX's awesome "authentication" to pass this off as a legit book. Judge for yourself...this was the last auction that ended before the most current one was pulled: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-1-PGX-9-8-NM-MT-RARE-2003-Museum-Edition-Variant-20-100-Like-CGC/162941121975?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 See that all of his other books are CGC makes me wonder if they bounced this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Bowchigabowwow said: I am really surprised that no one is talking about the Seller that profited off of unsuspecting buyers making thousands from a FAKE! The guy is a Comic Dealer...that's all he sells on eBay! He relied on his good reputation as a comic dealer with the help of PGX's awesome "authentication" to pass this off as a legit book. Judge for yourself...this was the last auction that ended before the most current one was pulled: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Walking-Dead-1-PGX-9-8-NM-MT-RARE-2003-Museum-Edition-Variant-20-100-Like-CGC/162941121975?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 I agree, that is the only thing I take from this whole TWDM fiasco. Someone with a reputable history on eBay took advantage of others. BTW there are 2 sellers involved in this. The raw copies were sold by nesman2014 and the graded ones were by wonder_tunes_comics Im sure theyll NEVER own up to their wrong doing and sadly never see trial. There are hundreds of con artists on eBay selling counterfeit memorabilia items with reputation to boot and they hardly ever get caught Bowchigabowwow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenWA Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) I see I opened a real can of worms with my original post... oops. Sorry. But interesting thread nevertheless. #Love TWD Edited April 4, 2018 by StephenWA typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Baru Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 This is a really interesting thread. Good reading! FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...