Silver Ager Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) I have to wonder how many qualified graders/staffers there are out there. Is it even possible to start and maintain a grader that's equivalent to CGC? Edited August 27, 2018 by Silver Ager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Silver Ager said: I have to wonder how many qualified graders/staffers there are out there. Is it even possible to start and maintain a grader that's equivalent to CGC? Yes. You just can't hire your unqualified friends and put them in positions of authority. The Lions Den and Silver Ager 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mcknowitall Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 10:03 AM, DeadOne said: I thought is was "advertiser". Or is that the point? I admit to being a bit dense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/27/2018 at 4:15 PM, Silver Ager said: I have to wonder how many qualified graders/staffers there are out there. Is it even possible to start and maintain a grader that's equivalent to CGC? By the guy that established the grading standards and methods used by CGC? Sure. CycleGirl and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicrage Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I was at the 2018 Baltimore Comic Con. It is clear proof that most collectors prefer CGC over CBCS. CGC had a constant crowd with about 10 employees assisting everyone. There was barely a line at CBCS. I dropped off a few books because CGC was slammed. Totally regretted it. CBCS had the worst customer services with two guys manning their booth. I heard chats about CGC versus CBCS. Can't go wrong with CGG. CBCS had a large following in the beginning but not anymore. If you ever want proof, just check their booth and lack on serious comic fan interest. Definitely not using CBCS ever again. RockMyAmadeus and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I can't take any company seriously that would encapsulate an un-witnessed signed book under an SS label. I wish that we could trust those signatures, but as was mentioned, some people have made/do make a living off of such counterfeits. I've started collecting almost exclusively CGC Signature Series books because of their nature. Not only were they signed, but they were witnessed. There's really no room for error. The only difference between a universal label and a raw is the plastic. Don't get me wrong, blue label books are still awesome, but SS books are truly special. RockMyAmadeus and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwaves favorite song Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Mentioned in the other guys forum my 26-going on 27 week wait and still sitting at "submitted" on the dashboard and the pressing agent posted he was "pulling my submission and sending it back, and perhaps in the future I might give them a try again....." after waiting nearly 27 weeks with zero progress. Ummm.....no The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 1:16 PM, shadroch said: I've called CBCS twice. Both times Steve picked up the phone. I've called Steve twice and both time CBCS answered. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) By the way....thought I'd share this here: I watched Tim Bildhauser of CBCS stand 5 feet away from me at the Baltimore Comicon, and totally ignore the con volunteer who said "10 items per person until the line is gone" for Louise Simonson...to which Bildhauser initially assented, and then he plops 30 or so down in front of Louise. The volunteer was pissed, and got in the middle of it, and Bildhauser, arrogantly, said "I have clients that have to get their books signed!", and Louise was like "oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't know, I'll make sure we do that!" Tacky, classless, and perfectly in sync with their mindset. If I was Louise, I would have stopped signing immediately, and refused to sign any more of his books. Edited October 27, 2018 by RockMyAmadeus jsilverjanet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Liebl Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 This industry worries me... I want a nice case and an unbiased third party grade and maybe some pressing. No books newer than 10 years should be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 22 hours ago, Karl Liebl said: This industry worries me... I want a nice case and an unbiased third party grade and maybe some pressing. No books newer than 10 years should be allowed. wut Are you Dranzer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Comic Book Exchange Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I have a lot to say about CBCS and have said some of it on CGC but CGC has taken it off and never gave an explanation. I have asked CGC 4 times and they said they will ask but nothing has ever got back to me on why. But in any case CBCS I believe is just as good as CGC but for the Customer Service, it's TERRIBLE and Petty and takes revenge if you say anything negative about them or even repeat what they told me to other members as CGC looks at it as constructive criticism and makes efforts to correct it. But for me now it's CGC all the way after having so MANY problems with CBCS. Non-Witnessed Comics is what CGC needs to get, as even none of Babe Ruths autographs were witnessed... RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Comic Book Exchange Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 10/1/2018 at 5:41 AM, TwoPiece said: I can't take any company seriously that would encapsulate an un-witnessed signed book under an SS label. I wish that we could trust those signatures, but as was mentioned, some people have made/do make a living off of such counterfeits. I've started collecting almost exclusively CGC Signature Series books because of their nature. Not only were they signed, but they were witnessed. There's really no room for error. The only difference between a universal label and a raw is the plastic. Don't get me wrong, blue label books are still awesome, but SS books are truly special. CBCS don't SS unwitnessed Comics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 hours ago, A-Burning-Desire said: CBCS don't SS unwitnessed Comics... "Not my diagnosis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride the Tiger Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 And that is why you won't catch me buying any Babe Ruth signed baseballs. CGCs signature series has taken away the guessing game of "did I just buy a forged comic"? Too many people out there with skills to duplicate a signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ride the Tiger said: And that is why you won't catch me buying any Babe Ruth signed baseballs. CGCs signature series has taken away the guessing game of "did I just buy a forged comic"? Too many people out there with skills to duplicate a signature. They had a Ruth signed ball at the last esate auction I went to . The snow made buyers scarce but I wasn't going to take that chance. Two Picasso's as well, and there are 2 Picasso's at the local "Trading Post" too. (He just signed blank paper at the end of his life.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Investment Comic Books Posted January 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) I was a CBCS fanboy, you couldn't shake my allegiance. Then, after a failed website migration, lost grader notes data, still no census, still an incomplete website, countless labels, some friends that worked there treated like garbage, and finally the move to Beckett, I came back to CGC. I realized my eyes were seeing through Rose colored glasses, and no matter what happened, I made excuses, my CBCS books sold for 10-25% less than CGC cased books. I appreciate CGCs willingness to change and improve. I have countless stories having been burned by both, but looking back CGC has been nearly flawless. Edited January 25, 2019 by Lime Green Comics theCapraAegagrus, Ride the Tiger, BlowUpTheMoon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 3:27 PM, Lime Green Comics said: I was a CBCS fanboy, you couldn't shake my allegiance. Then, after a failed website migration, lost grader notes data, still no census, still an incomplete website, countless labels, some friends that worked there treated like garbage, and finally the move to Beckett, I came back to CGC. I realized my eyes were seeing through Rose colored glasses, and no matter what happened, I made excuses, my CBCS books sold for 10-25% less than CGC cased books. I appreciate CGCs willingness to change and improve. I have countless stories having been burned by both, but looking back CGC has been nearly flawless. Rarely has a company been so poised for immediate success, only to so badly squander and fritter away the good will of a community so completely. This is what happens when you do not listen to, and become dismissive of, your customers. This is what happens when you take criticism personally. This is what happens when you hire your friends, rather than hiring competent professionals. This is what happens when you treat people with partiality. The Lions Den and Investment Comic Books 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 3:27 PM, Lime Green Comics said: I was a CBCS fanboy, you couldn't shake my allegiance. Then, after a failed website migration, lost grader notes data, still no census, still an incomplete website, countless labels, some friends that worked there treated like garbage, and finally the move to Beckett, I came back to CGC. I realized my eyes were seeing through Rose colored glasses, and no matter what happened, I made excuses, my CBCS books sold for 10-25% less than CGC cased books. I appreciate CGCs willingness to change and improve. I have countless stories having been burned by both, but looking back CGC has been nearly flawless. It takes a lot of guts to post something like this. Kudos to you. Investment Comic Books 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...