The Voord Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 On 8/28/2018 at 2:15 PM, JadeGiant said: It could get wet – I put the art in a sealed bag It could break – I have heard that Masonite can break/shatter. So, art in plastic … plastic taped to oversized carboard … cardboard in between Masonite … Yep, once had a piece of art get wet in transit, so art inside a sealed plastic bag is a must. I once had an artist ship me two pieces of art sandwiched between two pieces of Masonite placed inside an oversized jiffy bag. The Masonite sheets got broken in transit. . . . . which is why I subscribe to your last point that I've highlighted. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 6:19 AM, The Voord said: Yep, once had a piece of art get wet in transit, so art inside a sealed plastic bag is a must. I once had an artist ship me two pieces of art sandwiched between two pieces of Masonite placed inside an oversized jiffy bag. The Masonite sheets got broken in transit. . . . . which is why I subscribe to your last point that I've highlighted. My only concern with shipping art sealed in plastic is depending on the weather and where it is stored until being shipped, is condensation developing between the sheets of plastic and still damaging the art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voord Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Captain Canuck said: My only concern with shipping art sealed in plastic is depending on the weather and where it is stored until being shipped, is condensation developing between the sheets of plastic and still damaging the art. How about shipping art only during heatwave weather minus the plastic bag? timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaeditor Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Here is my method for shipping art that has worked for me and I have gotten compliments on the level of packaging. The art is first put in a Crystal Clear bag by Clear Bags https://www.clearbags.com/11-7-16-x-17-1-4-pc-bags-retail-pack-25-b1117pc.html I tape the artwork to the smooth side a 14x18 sheet of Masonite with clear packing tape leaving pull tabs (folded over tape). School specialty sell the precut board for $2.09 each https://www.schoolspecialty.com/school-specialty-masonite-panel-412093 I then take 2 large Priority Mail Game shipping boxes and cut them down to get 2 sheets that are 15x19 and put the artwork and masonite in between and seal it up with more packing tape. https://store.usps.com/store/product/shipping-supplies/priority-mail-large-flat-rate-board-game-box---gbfrb-P_GB_FRB gabadilla and JadeGiant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlake Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) On 9/23/2018 at 5:49 PM, Twanj said: Heritage changed the way they ship comic art. The art is in a mylar with a THICK backing board. That's inside a folded over oversize manila envelope, taped to cardboard. There are 5 slices of cardboard inside the large cardboard box/enclosure. I'm selling some of my OA for the first time and reused packaging from Heritage. In case anyone wants to know, it was a Uline S-12660, 20" x 16" with variable depth up to 6". Back when I ordered from them, Felix Art used something very similar to Uline's 20" x 16" x 1" box model S-3332, but that model is white while Felix's was regular cardboard brown. I already used mine so I can't check the brand and model. Edited December 12, 2018 by Greenlake timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAT MAN Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Art piece placed into a rigid toploader with 4th side closure clip placed into cardboard sandwich placed in layer of thick bubble wrap placed in a thick oversized cardboard box packed with crumbled paper to fill any empty space. gabadilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 The last OA piece I sent out was Wrapped in glassine paper then wrapped in small-bubble bubblewrap then sandwiched between 2 sheets of masonite those were taped tightly together, then wrapped in big-bubble bubblewrap then slipped into a wood crate made out of a 1x4 frame with additional blocking in the corners for rigidity and masonite skins for the front and back. All screwed together. Additionally the back had wood glue applied, so it only opened from the front. Then the whole thing was taped shut with Gorilla tape wrapped over all sides. The gorilla tape seems like overkill, but I've had crates that were shipped to me, where the gorilla tape actually saved the package from coming apart. On more than one occasion,shocks to the crate had busted the masonite loose of the frame around it in one or more places. But the tape held. That gorilla tape is gnarly stuff. Shipping bill from DC to LA was $420 ish. It was a 30" x 40" oil on canvas, so YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ESeffinga Posted April 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) On 10/1/2018 at 5:55 PM, Captain Canuck said: My only concern with shipping art sealed in plastic is depending on the weather and where it is stored until being shipped, is condensation developing between the sheets of plastic and still damaging the art. In 25 years of art collecting I've never heard of a single instance of this happening. I have on the other hand read many dozens of instances where plastic was not used, and something got a bit damp (or outright soaked) from a piece being left on a doorstep and there was rain or snow. Unless someone is storing the thing in a shower before shipping, and then sending it via pickup truck, I sincerely doubt moisture for the few days a work is in transit would harm a piece of art that is sealed in plastic. If it's dirt cheap art and one is shipping via slow cargo ship, definitely make sure the thing is covered/protected. Once on the other end, let it air out 24 hours before putting in another sealed bag or portfolio. You skin oils from handling the page without gloves are more likely to damage it than "trapped condensation". My rule of thumb is this: The primary way to make sure art arrives safe is to pack for transit, and also to figure out shipping via the speediest yet cost effective method. $200 piece? Pony up for Priority Mail. Packed well, chances are it'll be fine. $2000 piece? If USPS Priority isn't at least 2 day to you, think about FedEx 2-day. 20K piece? Ship that mess overnight. First morning if available. $200K piece. Get on a plane. Going UPS ground on a coast to coast shipment where it could take a week or more is saving a few dollars and asking for the abuse that comes with it. Trust me. The $5-10 we might save is not worth 4" of corner being snapped through the masonite, and bending/wrecking the page. At least not IMO. Edited April 4, 2019 by ESeffinga Shepherd, timguerrero, aokartman and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlevy1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 What service is recommended for shipping internationally comic art with value of $2 - 10K? timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Generally I like to send Global Express Guaranteed via USPS when possible. Or next best option when not. Keep in mind not all services will go to all places internationally, and restrictions are different to different countries as well. FedEx and UPS tend to be pretty crazy for international. I've used DHL with great success as well. If you know the buyer personally, I just pack as bomb proof as possible and ship via whatever service is the most reasonable balance of speed/cost. I've had pieces get "lost" for weeks at a time during transit, but they've always turned up when I filed a missing package report. Funnily enough, not by the missing package report. most times they go missing for a week or 3, and then get delivered late. But then I get notices from USPS saying they are still searching for weeks after it's been delivered. Go figure. If I don't know the buyer, the process also involves prayer, fretting, lots of distracted days and sleepless moments until it's delivered. I never undervalue pieces for international shipping anymore, and I won't lie on customs forms for people trying to save a few bucks. I do offer to ship to people stateside, if the buyer has someone in the U.S. that they trust to accept packages for them. Makes shipping from me to them faster and simpler. And then they take on the risk of getting from here to wherever they are located. Edited April 23, 2019 by ESeffinga timguerrero and The Voord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I've shipped some big art in my time, but nothing like this one... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/arts/bouguereau-jeunesse-bacchus-sothebys-move.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab Legion of Goom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, ESeffinga said: I've shipped some big art in my time, but nothing like this one... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/arts/bouguereau-jeunesse-bacchus-sothebys-move.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab When I think of shipping issues, nobody's work looms larger than Anselm Kiefer. I love most of what he does, but am also happy that owning privately (in a modest sized home!) is impossible. Never have to worry about what could happen in transit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Or Schnabel, same difference... Remember articles in the 90s of plates falling off his pieces and onto gallery floors. Just from hanging there. Can’t imagine shipping it. Yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, ESeffinga said: Or Schnabel, same difference... (except I don't like Schnabel!) 2 hours ago, ESeffinga said: Remember articles in the 90s of plates falling off his pieces and onto gallery floors. Just from hanging there. Can’t imagine shipping it. Yeesh. ...and people here worry about unstable markers on The Death of Captain Marvel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 So there’s this bit about potential impacts to international shipping... https://www.freightwaves.com/news/us-to-leave-global-postal-union-next-month?p=228902&fbclid=IwAR2fG1GY0R0F-3q4-Vlgeedxf4VkdQsXLhlNZocVsllKMFhToAeAOg3gxP0 vodou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichotomy Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 From ME to MA, via !@#$%^&* Jersey... Expected Tuesday, so 3 days in unnecessary shipping limbo. WHY MATRIX WHY?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, dichotomy said: From ME to MA, via !@#$%^&* Jersey... Expected Tuesday, so 3 days in unnecessary shipping limbo. WHY MATRIX WHY?!?!?! At every stop you get charged that state's sales (and soon VAT too) tax...think of them as previews of the customs fees to come as the country breaks up in the next some years and forms new boundaries throughout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, dichotomy said: From ME to MA, via !@#$%^&* Jersey... Expected Tuesday, so 3 days in unnecessary shipping limbo. WHY MATRIX WHY?!?!?! So you will have something exciting to remember the experience by. It’s a value added service. Truth is, ANYbody that intentionally chooses to buy/ship original art from post-Thanksgiving to Christmas is a dyed in the wool thrill seeker/adrenaline junkie. It’s like people jumping out of airplanes for a fun experience. I don’t get it personally, and I don’t begrudge them their choices. I just know they are different. I tend to ask people to just hold stuff and ship after the holidays. Less stress for everyone! Edited December 14, 2019 by ESeffinga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dichotomy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 More fun with USPS. Two days wasted trying to coordinate a signature. Shipped priority 2-day on Jan 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voord Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 If I'm sending higher-end art from the UK to overseas destinations I opt for Parcelforce's Global Express, which has something like a three-day delivery window, providing no delays with customs clearance. If they don't deliver on time (with no customs issues), I can claim a 100% refund of mailing costs. Never had a package go astray and have had a number of full refunds for late arrival. Packaging-wise, I'm a big fan of Gorilla tape. Flexible, strong and holds everything together. Albert Moy once remarked to me (after receiving one of my packages), "You sure do like duct tape." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
