ADAMANTIUM Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, JollyComics said: 10 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said: For PGX? Yes. For CGC? No, I don't think so..... do you have any experience that would prove that? I've cracked out both, and what your suggesting would seem impossible to me I deslabbed old cases many times (both PGX and CGC). I read and store them with old labels. Pull the label from the top of the seal effortlessly. It's not that difficult. Sometimes, the case just popped without a single crack. Too easy. However the new seal is tough. I have not tried to crack the new case but I will. CGC knows what they are doing. No Worries glad they seem to have another fix in place then I wasn't aware of the CGC case issue. The PGX when I cracked it made me laugh out loud haha JollyComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: In all fairness, CGC has there share of mistakes also. I do think typos can happen on the grade. Look at this book............. Bob, we both have been around this hobby for decades. I know what you're saying but I won't give PGX one inch with all the krap they've been involved in over the years. 4.0 would be a bit of a stretch for me, and I can't stretch far anymore. Now stop by for a Bush Lite sometime. Edited September 3, 2018 by DR.X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, Skeptic_Kepp said: first of all that building is all wrong. we need a garage or a basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride the Tiger Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, DR.X said: first of all that building is all wrong. we need a garage or a basement. And this shows 4 people in it, Should just be 1 dude talking to self in mirror perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 8 hours ago, JollyComics said: That old case can be manipulated easily. The label can be replaced then put the seal back inside then the case is re-sealed. Today the new case is tough. The label and seal are totally separated that is difficult to manipulate. Is this book listed online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 what a joke....it does pgx a true disservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, James J Johnson said: Is this book listed online? Ask Bob - @Bomber-Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, JollyComics said: That old case can be manipulated easily. The label can be replaced then put the seal back inside then the case is re-sealed. Today the new case is tough. The label and seal are totally separated that is difficult to manipulate. Agreed. This would explain how a low grade JIM #83 ended up as a 5.0... Edited September 4, 2018 by The Lions Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, JollyComics said: Ask Bob - @Bomber-Bob Why the mystery? Why can't I ask you if it's online so I can see the listing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: Why the mystery? Why can't I ask you if it's online so I can see the listing? it is on e bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosconi Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, DR.X said: first of all that building is all wrong. we need a garage or a basement. Photos have finally surfaced of PGX's encapsulation room Edited September 4, 2018 by mosconi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, DR.X said: it is on e bay Got it. A completed listing, ending Aug 4th. Here's an item from the seller's feedback in July: Negative: returned Daredevil 1 with cracked case - still waiting for refund-echeck bounced. Whoever bought the JIM 83 "CGC 5.0" hasn't yet left feedback, but like the buyer of their DD 1, they should take a long, hard look at the case, the well, the label, and the manner in which it's all sealed, or not. Edited September 4, 2018 by James J Johnson The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, mosconi said: Photo's have finally surfaced of PGX's encapsulation room Nice height ceiling! Adequate enough to stack plenty of manure once this gig has run its course. Of course, when it finally comes to that, he'll have to trade in his diaper for waders, although somewhat less aesthetic, purely for the sake of practicality. What a shame. . Edited September 4, 2018 by James J Johnson mosconi and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, James J Johnson said: Why the mystery? Why can't I ask you if it's online so I can see the listing? You didn't tell me which book. JIM 83 is not found anywhere. Ask Bob. JIM 62 can be found on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, JollyComics said: You didn't tell me which book. JIM 83 is not found anywhere. Ask Bob. JIM 62 can be found on eBay. The 83 CGC 5.0 you posted was listed, but ended August 4th, won for $6000+. I found it. I also found a negative in the seller's feedback from July from a buyer who received a Daredevil 1 with a cracked CGC case! What a surprising coincidence. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, JollyComics said: You didn't tell me which book. JIM 83 is not found anywhere. Ask Bob. JIM 62 can be found on eBay. The PGX graded JIM 62 is just par for the course for them. Just another blatantly overgraded book but not the by-product of slab tampering. That CGC 5.0 JIM 83 might be a different issue altogether. Like anyone grading a comic, the pro-graders can be off a notch or two in anybody else's opinion, it's all subjective when it comes down to it, but given what that CGC 5.0 JIM 83 looks like, a 2.5 to 3.0 (at best) book under a CGC 5.0 label, and now seeing that the seller has a negative for a cracked case on a Daredevil 1 from July, my opinion is that the case and contents really need some extra scrutiny, as well as the seller if the case and contents look to be tampered with, something that the pic is inconclusive on. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: The 83 CGC 5.0 you posted was listed, but ended August 4th, won for $6000+. I found it. I also found a negative in the seller's feedback from July from a buyer who received a Daredevil 1 with a cracked CGC case! What a surprising coincidence. Finally found it. Thanks. I thought eCheck is no longer in use in PayPal. Edited September 4, 2018 by JollyComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, JollyComics said: Finally found it. Thanks. Look at the back cover image! Even worse than the front. Water damage, tape stain (removed tape), too many creases to count, inch long tears on the left edge, the book is no better than 2.5 and that's being generous. Switched label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: Look at the back cover image! Even worse than the front. Water damage, tape stain (removed tape), too many creases to count, inch long tears on the left edge, the book is no better than 2.5 and that's being generous. Switched label. The old case is so easy to be manipulated. CGC fixed that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, JollyComics said: The old case is so easy to be manipulated. CGC fixed that problem. I gave the book its own thread. The label is definitely switched. Someone took a 2.5 label and replaced it with a 5.0 label. Now they'll resubmit the 5.0 to be re-slabbed. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
