vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Murphman13 said: When Pat Broderick took over Micronauts. He made each panel come to life. I couldn't wait to run down to the 7-11 each month to grab the latest issue. He surely put a lot of care in the work! Murphman13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I have never been a Broderick fan but damn, that's a nice page Murphman13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 One of my childhood favorites was Fantastic Four 90-93. Kirby is unmatched when the scale of a story is biggest, but it’s funny how the little things stay with you. Ben’s “You gotta be kiddin’ me” look could only have been drawn by a master. KobaltDog and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KirbyJack Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thor 154-157, the Mangog story, is full of wondrous moments. One of the most memorable for me is this commentary. Kirby fans often want to de-emphasize Stan’s contributions, but this was inspirational, and Jack most certainly did not write it. KobaltDog, vaillant, Unca Ben and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thankfully we're in the Golden Age of Comic Book Movies, because it's very difficult to find a 21st century title with great art and writing (IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, TwoPiece said: Thankfully we're in the Golden Age of Comic Book Movies, because it's very difficult to find a 21st century title with great art and writing (IMO). Yes, art is a "hit and miss": sometimes excellent, sometimes embarassingly bordering the totally amateurish. Stories… well, "superhero writers fear drama" someone synthetized in an article, and I entirely agree: stories reached a maturity, intensity and complexity under the Comics Code. Now that they are “free” to write without worrying (?) about an intended audience… well, they do not know how to portrait life, so they just do… entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Jerkfro said: I have never been a Broderick fan but damn, that's a nice page «Writer J. M. DeMatteis and Broderick created the Creature Commandos in Weird War Tales #93 (November 1980).[7] In 1981, he abruptly left Marvel for DC.[8] As he said in a 2003 interview, "Jim Shooter had all but informed me that, in his opinion, my art sucked and that I would never get another raise there, regardless of how well my books were selling. So one quick phone call to DC and I was in."» (from the Wikipedia entry of Broderick – Shooter, Shooter… my theories find confirmation more and more each day it passes…) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, vaillant said: «Writer J. M. DeMatteis and Broderick created the Creature Commandos in Weird War Tales #93 (November 1980).[7] In 1981, he abruptly left Marvel for DC.[8] As he said in a 2003 interview, "Jim Shooter had all but informed me that, in his opinion, my art sucked and that I would never get another raise there, regardless of how well my books were selling. So one quick phone call to DC and I was in."» (from the Wikipedia entry of Broderick – Shooter, Shooter… my theories find confirmation more and more each day it passes…) I can see Shooter's point his anatomy was pretty bad. He hid it with great special effects and solid backgrounds though. punksdropdirtysrh and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, kav said: I can see Shooter's point his anatomy was pretty bad. He hid it with great special effects and solid backgrounds though. It was more a consideration on Shooter general choices – which gave start to entirely new dynamics (not always good) rather than his evaluation of the art (I doubt he has said "it sucks" to Broderick, using these precise words: but hey, even if he was polite maybe it was just a matter to encourage Broderick to improve). Anyway, if the Micronaut inks are by Broderick, I loved his old style. Is that possible that he draw (or inked) entire Captain Marvel episodes before The Micronauts? kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, kav said: I can see Shooter's point his anatomy was pretty bad. He hid it with great special effects and solid backgrounds though. And I agree: that Batman is not good at all, details aside. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punksdropdirtysrh Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 A couple come to mind: F For Fake, KirbyJack and KobaltDog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F For Fake Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jerkfro said: When I was a teenager, I didn't care for Kirby. However, when I saw this, from Demon 1, it started to really change my opinion of his work I have a similar story. Born in the late 70's, grew up in the 80's with Art Adams and his progeny. Kirby looked so WEIRD to me, I just did not get it. When I was 19, I started working at a comic shop, and the comic buyer there mentored me, and flipped those switches in my brain. I've been a devoted Kirby fan ever since. These are a couple of the images that cracked the code for me: Edited November 7, 2018 by F For Fake KobaltDog, Ken Aldred, vaillant and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, F For Fake said: I have a similar story. Born in the late 70's, grew up in the 80's with Art Adams and his progeny. Kirby looked so WEIRD to me, I just did not get it. When I was 19, I started working at a comic shop, and the comic buyer there mentored me, and flipped those switches in my brain. I've been a devoted Kirby fan ever since. These are a couple of the images that cracked the code for me: Yep same for me. Hated kirby-at age 55 I got some Thors and was immediately hooked then gathered as much kirby as I could-all the Thors i could afford, FF reprints, 4th world, demon kamandi etc. KirbyJack, vaillant, F For Fake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JazzMan Posted November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Amazing Adventures #5 - Gene Colan got me hooked on his rendition of Black Widow. First saw this in one of the Treasury Sized Holiday Grabbag when I was a kid. Edited November 7, 2018 by JazzMan F For Fake, Brandon Shepherd, vaillant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, F For Fake said: Yes, yes and yes! This whole entire story… And the cover captures wonderfuly the inner atmosphere. Ken Aldred, KirbyJack and F For Fake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, JazzMan said: Amazing Adventures #5 - Gene Colan got me hooked on his rendition of Black Widow. First saw this in one of the Treasury Sized Holiday Grabbag when I was a kid. not generally a Colan fan but he knocked those outta the park. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, JazzMan said: Amazing Adventures #5 - Gene Colan got me hooked on his rendition of Black Widow. First saw this in one of the Treasury Sized Holiday Grabbag when I was a kid. Wonderful and that’s what I mean by "mature", complex, engaging characters and stories. No "sexploitation", just great women (and men) in their adventures, and the quality of artwork matched that. KirbyJack and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, vaillant said: Wonderful and that’s what I mean by "mature", complex, engaging characters and stories. No "sexploitation", just great women (and men) in their adventures, and the quality of artwork matched that. This what moderns lack. with few exceptions like brubaker/phillips the writers seem to learn writing from watching sitcoms. Blechh 1950's war comics and vaillant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, kav said: This what moderns lack. with few exceptions like brubaker/phillips the writers seem to learn writing from watching sitcoms. Blechh Way worse: it’s like learning to write when your parents were a generation watching sitcoms… LOL (with maybe the added "malus" that in the end some writer do not even seem to care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, vaillant said: Way worse: it’s like learning to write when your parents were a generation watching sitcoms… LOL (with maybe the added "malus" that in the end some writer do not even seem to care). it's gross whatever it is. even worse is when they write stories based on them and their friends like the excreble America by Gabby Rivers. The first thing I was taught in writing class is DONT WRITE ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS!! vaillant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
