ygogolak Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, tv horror said: As a Bond girl or villain maybe but Bond should always be a man either way what would you call the men? A female Bond would go with Bond boys? If I could cast a few Bond girls they would be Kellita Smith and Yvonne Strahovski they are both beautiful women. Why does it have to be men? I'm not following your naming there. You mean the character name is James Bond? Got that, but it really makes no sense since it's been 10 different male actors. KobaltDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ygogolak said: Why does it have to be men? You would hardly cast a man in the part of Cleopatra there are just some characters who are male and the same goes for female roles. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, tv horror said: You would hardly cast a man in the part of Cleopatra there are just some characters who are male and the same goes for female roles. As I said, there have been many different males. Maybe you have been living inside the past 5 years and don't know the current Hollywood climate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It should definitely be redefined . . . inclusively. [INSERT MEME HERE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ygogolak said: As I said, there have been many different males. Maybe you have been living inside the past 5 years and don't know the current Hollywood climate? No I stand by what I said Hollywood is not dictating the trend it is the novelty factor. The characters are gender specific what next "John Eyre" "Robert of Sunnybrook farm" "Shirley Holmes" the list goes on some parts are fixed in stone. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, tv horror said: No I stand by what I said Hollywood is not dictating the trend it is the novelty factor. The characters are gender specific what next "John Eyre" "Robert of Sunnybrook farm" "Shirley Holmes" the list goes on some parts are fixed in stone. I have no idea who any of those are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ygogolak said: I have no idea who any of those are. The made up male roles for classic literary characters and a female role for Sherlock Holmes. . 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, tv horror said: The made up male roles for classic literary characters and a female role for Sherlock Holmes. . https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stars-preview-hbo-asias-female-sherlock-holmes-series-1104876 KobaltDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, ygogolak said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/stars-preview-hbo-asias-female-sherlock-holmes-series-1104876 Look at this statement in the article. " the female factor certainly helped craft "a brand new Sherlock Holmes." Notice the word FACTOR? As I say the novelty, when these classic characters were first created the authors had a specific gender in mind, I actually don't mind a female version however the characters are canon and should not be changed. Get Marwood & I and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KobaltDog Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Vince Vaughn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, KobaltDog said: Vince Vaughn Stop mucking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, tv horror said: Look at this statement in the article. " the female factor certainly helped craft "a brand new Sherlock Holmes." Notice the word FACTOR? As I say the novelty, when these classic characters were first created the authors had a specific gender in mind, I actually don't mind a female version however the characters are canon and should not be changed. Moreover, James Bond is NOT in the public domain. I'm assuming the Ian Fleming estate still has a certain say in how his character is portrayed... it's not just up to Hollywood (or whatever international conglomerate the Bond franchise has now become). ▫️, ygogolak and tv horror 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian48 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Dunno, but I'd bet Tom Cruise is campaigning for it. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Idris Elba would be a good choice. tv horror and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Bookery said: Moreover, James Bond is NOT in the public domain. I'm assuming the Ian Fleming estate still has a certain say in how his character is portrayed... it's not just up to Hollywood (or whatever international conglomerate the Bond franchise has now become). However there was already a female 007 her name was Ursula Andress and yes it was only a code name as she played Vesper Lynd in Casino Royale 1967. Edited April 19, 2019 by tv horror ComicConnoisseur and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bookery said: Moreover, James Bond is NOT in the public domain. I'm assuming the Ian Fleming estate still has a certain say in how his character is portrayed... it's not just up to Hollywood (or whatever international conglomerate the Bond franchise has now become). On January 1st, 2015, the works of Ian Fleming entered the public domain in a number of countries. That means that the character of James Bond is no longer copyrighted in those countries, just like Sherlock Holmes has been for a while. But it doesn't mean that it's suddenly open season on that character. In Europe, Fleming's books have twenty more years to go before they hit the public domain. In the United States, with renewal, it can be 95 years from publication. https://io9.gizmodo.com/what-does-it-mean-now-that-james-bonds-in-canadas-publi-1678191830 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I think the series needs to explore more of the double "0" agents. We have seen a 006. Give us 008 (and sure, make it a woman). tv horror and ygogolak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ygogolak said: That means that the character of James Bond is no longer copyrighted in those countries Eon productions still own the Rights that's why there were two versions of Thunderball because Kevin McClory helped Ian Fleming on the -script and developed the movie Bond far removed from Fleming's original character. So long as he kept within that story line and characters he could make as many versions as he wanted, other than that Eon Production calls the shots. 1950's war comics and ygogolak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bane Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Idris Elba would be a good choice. Elba is currently 47 years old, Craig is 51 and has another movie to come in 2020 making him 52. They portrayed Craig in Skyfall as being outdated, past it if you will. Looking at how much time generally taken between Bond films it can take another 3 years after the last Craig film to develop a new Bond movie, which begs the question are they going to build a franchise around Elba who would be 51 when his first movie is released? Making him pushing 60 by the end of a trilogy? Unless they are going to portray Bond in his later years ala Neeson in Taken. Joshua33 and tv horror 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Should have been Statham's job years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...