Chudders Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Hi All, Just looking for a small piece of advice. I have noticed recently that quite a few Marvel covers have areas of faded colour, sometimes almost to white, in patches aligned down a page. Is this a production fault and how significant is it to a grade? One seller on eBay called it 'colour rub', but I am not sure if that is the correct term? I have the opportunity to buy a War of the Realms Omega 1, that is in very good nick, other than a slightly faded area about 4mm across and 10mm in length. Unfortunately i cannot copy and paste a picture, but here is a link https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/War-Of-The-Realms-Omega-1-NM-1-50-David-Yardin-Variant/254295406558?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dde0bdf13860b44f1a2dc6bbdd6373afc%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D254295406558%26itm%3D254295406558%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A763bb567-a597-11e9-971b-74dbd180b547%7Cparentrq%3Aec7a210516b0a9c96ead4e8cff7341d5%7Ciid%3A1 The faded area is between Cable's arm and the bottom staple. I have a copy of Immortal Hulk 2, that has patches like this, but quite a few of them from top to bottom of the page. What is the official name for this type of issue and is it only me noticing it on recent Marvels? Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chudders Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Anyone able to offer any help on any aspect of this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I think it's very difficult to assist you without any pics of what you are talking about. Often, books suffer from color fades because the book is on display, open to sunlight. You may be suffering from water exposure, excessive heat exposure, etc. It could be many things that we could only guess at without seeing pics. Sorry. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chudders Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hi Bob (and others). If you follow the link I have provided, you can see exactly what I mean on the War of the Realms Omega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chudders Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Here it is on IH #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chudders Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 The area right by the staple on IH #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 That is rubbing/scuffing. Physical damage removing ink. Fading is a different thing. The Lions Den and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 22 hours ago, Chudders said: Here it is on IH #2 that looks like a scratch which is a different thing than fading this is fading The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 12:05 PM, Krishosein said: that looks like a scratch which is a different thing than fading this is fading Hypothetically if this was a structural 10 what grade would be assigned in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, JTD said: Hypothetically if this was a structural 10 what grade would be assigned in your opinion? sorry I am not understanding your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Krishosein said: sorry I am not understanding your question? How bad would CGC dock the grade for the fading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, JTD said: How bad would CGC dock the grade for the fading? It really depends on the severity of the fading it could be a from a point to a few points as the cover is a more significant factor into the grade of the book and colours and if the whole cover is faded or sections which area as they also consider the overall appearance of the book as well. So it could be a wide range. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 if you want to know more about grading spend some time in the PGM book section of the forum and maybe ready Overstreet guide to grading to get a feel for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTD Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Krishosein said: It really depends on the severity of the fading it could be a from a point to a few points as the cover is a more significant factor into the grade of the book and colours and if the whole cover is faded or sections which area as they also consider the overall appearance of the book as well. So it could be a wide range. I know it depends on severity, but I’m asking about this specific example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 That ASM isn't a "structural 10", though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, JTD said: I know it depends on severity, but I’m asking about this specific example. I am not a CGC grader or a pro and based on the photo I randomly grabbed off the net with not other info or back cover etc... I would guestimate the grade to be likely 6 range maybe lower as the entire cover is faded and it does detract from the comic overall most collectors want a nice looking book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Krishosein said: I am not a CGC grader or a pro ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, TwoPiece said: I mean the dudes asking me to tell him like I have the formula for how CGC will bump down the grade like if its structurally 10 what does that even mean a CGC graded 10 book is not just about structure its about production flaws etc.. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Krishosein said: I mean the dudes asking me to tell him like I have the formula for how CGC will bump down the grade like if its structurally 10 what does that even mean a CGC graded 10 book is not just about structure its about production flaws etc.. Shape-up, son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, TwoPiece said: Shape-up, son! YES Sir.. I mean Person.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
