When will the other shoe drop with CGC and the 'crack, press, and resub' game? 3 3

[oakman29]

1 minute ago, James J Johnson said:

Aren't there dozens of heat presses that sell on ebay each and every week? They used to list them showing T-shirts being pressed. Now they list them with comics pictured in the listings and language like, "Improve your comics".

Pressing comics is solely a for profit situation for CGC , you cant tell me that pressing is not noticeable.  Now CGC has a pressing service? C'mon!

[Logan510]

3 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Aren't there dozens of heat presses that sell on ebay each and every week? They used to list them showing T-shirts being pressed. Now they list them with comics pictured in the listings and language like, "Improve your comics".

Well, my point really was that there are a lot of people selling high grade books out there that have been pressed and a lot of those aren't in slabs. It's easy to say you only hunt for high grade "survivors", but I would posit that most would not be able to tell the difference if the presser has done a good job.

[oakman29]

Just now, Logan510 said:

Well, my point really was that there are a lot of people selling high grade books out there that have been pressed and a lot of those aren't in slabs. It's easy to say you only hunt for high grade "survivors", but I would posit that most would not be able to tell the difference if the presser has done a good job.

Those backyard pressers usually F them up. 

As far as CGC not being able to tell with certainty on pressing. Why? 

With a new revenue stream,  of course they cant tell.

[kav]

2 minutes ago, oakman29 said:

Those backyard pressers usually F them up. 

As far as CGC not being able to tell with certainty on pressing. Why? 

With a new revenue stream,  of course they cant tell.

question: if there was a way to make trimming undetectable, would CGC then consider it not restoration?

BOOM

Edited July 22, 2019 by kav

[Logan510]

1 minute ago, oakman29 said:

Those backyard pressers usually F them up. 

As far as CGC not being able to tell with certainty on pressing. Why? 

With a new revenue stream,  of course they cant tell.

They claimed they couldn't tell before the new revenue stream 

 

[Logan510]

Just now, kav said:

question: if there was a way to make trimming undetectable, would CGC then consider it not restoration?

BOOM

That's not even remotely the same thing.

[kav]

Just now, Logan510 said:

That's not even remotely the same thing.

dang

[oakman29]

1 minute ago, Logan510 said:

They claimed they couldn't tell before the new revenue stream 

 

We ( us board members) are pretty well versed in the comic book world.

We know what a pancakes book looks like now, dont we?

[kav]

What if there was a machine that could perfectly replace staples exactly as original-then would they not consider staple replacement restoration and offer that service?

[Logan510]

Just now, oakman29 said:

We ( us board members) are pretty well versed in the comic book world.

We know what a pancakes book looks like now, dont we?

Maybe you're more of an expert 

As I've stated earlier in the thread, all pressing is not created equally.

[kav]

1 minute ago, oakman29 said:

We ( us board members) are pretty well versed in the comic book world.

We know what a pancakes book looks like now, dont we?

yes, yes we do-

[Logan510]

1 minute ago, kav said:

What if there was a machine that could perfectly replace staples exactly as original-then would they not consider staple replacement restoration and offer that service?

Not even remotely the same thing.

[kav]

Just now, Logan510 said:

Not even remotely the same thing.

dang

 

[Logan510]

Just now, kav said:

dang

 

X 1000

[kav]

what if there was something that was the same thing?  Then would it not be considered restoration?

[Logan510]

Just now, kav said:

what if there was something that was the same thing?  Then would it not be considered restoration?

I never said pressing wasn't restoration.

But smoothing out a non color breaking fold is not the same thing as trimming or replacing staples.

[oakman29]

2 minutes ago, kav said:

yes, yes we do-

Does look like a few books I've seen.

[oakman29]

Just now, Logan510 said:

I never said pressing wasn't restoration.

But smoothing out a non color breaking fold is not the same thing as trimming or replacing staples.

And neither was pressing a book at one time.

[Logan510]

Just now, oakman29 said:

Does look like a few books I've seen.

Yes, there are obvious examples and most of us who've been around long enough have seen our fair share of examples 

 

[Logan510]

1 minute ago, oakman29 said:

And neither was pressing a book at one time.

I don't get what you're saying.