zhamlau Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, artdealer said: That’s incorrect. All the art was auctioned all as one lot. was the art stacked up on wooden pallets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, zhamlau said: was the art stacked up on wooden pallets? more interesting: what did that "single lot" sell for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, zhamlau said: was the art stacked up on wooden pallets? I remember it being stacked on shelves. the comics were on pallets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, vodou said: more interesting: what did that "single lot" sell for? I want to say somewhere between $25,000 to $50k. But time has not been kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 7:57 PM, vodou said: On 1/28/2020 at 6:59 PM, zhamlau said: was the art stacked up on wooden pallets? more interesting: what did that "single lot" sell for? Ahh, the story for years was that it was ALL on pallets, comics and art. You bought lots of it some art some comics. I guess the truth was yeah you got it like that but it wasnt multiple lots it was ONE giant lot...good buy for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, zhamlau said: Ahh, the story for years was that it was ALL on pallets, comics and art. You bought lots of it some art some comics. I guess the truth was yeah you got it like that but it wasnt multiple lots it was ONE giant lot...good buy for someone. The comics were all in a dark room with a single lightbulb in that warehouse. The art was in a separate office. You weren’t allowed to go through the art before the auction. Comic and art were auctioned separately as 2 lots. grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Thank God for Mitch; another 150 internet myths being put to rest tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkininkin Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, artdealer said: The comics were all in a dark room with a single lightbulb in that warehouse. The art was in a separate office. You weren’t allowed to go through the art before the auction. Comic and art were auctioned separately as 2 lots. Both Frazetta and Neal Adams understood the value of their art back then and it was my understanding that they demanded/expected to have their art returned upon publication? I don't want to be adding to myths and half truths. But if correct, the Warren auction would not have included art from these two artists, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, stinkininkin said: Both Frazetta and Neal Adams understood the value of their art back then and it was my understanding that they demanded/expected to have their art returned upon publication? I don't want to be adding to myths and half truths. But if correct, the Warren auction would not have included art from these two artists, yes? I'm not 100% but I think the early split of Frazetta from Warren was that "returns" per Jim Warren were non-negotiable. Or was that EC/Gaines...I just forget sometimes Wrightson later tried too and, iirc, was absolutely rebuffed by Jim Warren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Christie’s Auctions 10-29-94 with prices realized. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Sotheby’s includes original art pages with prices along with some of the Kirby recreations. It is widely assumed that Kirby had assistants work on the recreations. This is for history and record keeping. Not looking to rehash Kirby + assistants. Just enjoy a bit of our history. Twanj and Catwoman_Fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:34 PM, artdealer said: The things I have seen! ill write that book after I die. 😜 You really should write a book...seriously. You're a HUGE part of the history of this hobby/business. I'd bet you'd have NO trouble filling three hundred pages. I'm sure though that more than a few named within the covers would be screaming libel and defamation... NC101 and grapeape 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 1/7/2020 at 1:18 PM, grapeape said: To your point, here’s a few more. What’s interesting is the art for sale with many dealers didn’t have pics. A serious buyer might get a photocopy or even a picture taken with a camera upon request. I did a deal that took 5 weeks with the back and forth. So you had to rely on a typed description. Then you had to go through comics to find the images. Anyone care for a Kirby FF 5 page 19 ? A no prize for the member that finds an image from FF 5 page 19 and posts it here so we can compare to Conrad’s description. I remember seeing this FF 5 page and another from late in the same issue at a NY Con. At the time I saw them, they were priced at a little over $5K - so obviously before this ad was published. I recall that both pages were very nice shape but extremely pricey. grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 hours ago, pemart1966 said: You really should write a book...seriously. You're a HUGE part of the history of this hobby/business. I'd bet you'd have NO trouble filling three hundred pages. I'm sure though that more than a few named within the covers would be screaming libel and defamation... Thanks for the kind words. Except it’s not libel and defamation if it’s true. And now I’m a dinosaur. grapeape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 1/6/2020 at 11:10 AM, vodou said: Conrad had that $4500 Thor splash for YEARS. Just could not get a bite. I saw it in person in 1997 I believe at a show in Las Vegas. The original art was in a side room away from the comics. I seriously thought about it but ended up buying a bunch of comics instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkininkin Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, artdealer said: Thanks for the kind words. Except it’s not libel and defamation if it’s true. And now I’m a dinosaur. Write it Mitch. Don't forget to include all the gory details. delekkerste, NC101 and Twanj 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee B. Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 8 hours ago, stinkininkin said: Write it Mitch. Don't forget to include all the gory details. I volunteer to be Mitch's co-author/ghostwriter. After all, I did publish a short interview with him on my website: http://comicartads.com/content/mitch-itkowitz-interview It's good to see that there could be an audience for such a book. Cheers, Lee delekkerste and The Voord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Lee B. said: I volunteer to be Mitch's co-author/ghostwriter. After all, I did publish a short interview with him on my website: http://comicartads.com/content/mitch-itkowitz-interview It's good to see that there could be an audience for such a book. Cheers, Lee HUGE audience But we collectors need them to be signed, so publication cannot occur posthumously! Lee B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, vodou said: HUGE audience But we collectors need them to be signed, so publication cannot occur posthumously! After The book was published, I would have to enter the Witness Protection Program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...