caje4091 A new Stan Lee signature forger in town! 0

[James J Johnson]

11 hours ago, JollyComics said:

I REALLY don't understand HOW Voldemort and Berkbutt vertified Stan Lee's signatures.

Berkbutt authentication fee for Stan Lee's signature is $20 for one book, $35 for two books, etc. etc.

Sadly, Stan Lee's signature had been inconsistent in last few years before his time came up.  Those scums have became opportunists.

Here's what happened in the autograph hobby. They became expensive and mainstream authentication services like PSA/DNA started up. Prior to that, when one sought an opinion on authenticity, they went to the highest authority; the foremost expert in the field, for that particular autograph! Sure, there were experts who looked at items from many different genres, hundreds, thousands of different signers and they kept exemplar files to assist them in their detection, if they weren't as familiar with some as others. But specialists; those that had a very high degree of expertise in a particular signer was consulted. Much like is you wanted to sell a John Glenn signed photo, a Mr. Zipper COA would bear a whole heck of a lot more weight that a PSA COA, Z is the #1 aero-space authority, unquestionably.

In most cases, a specialist can authenticate without having to review his exemplar files. He knows exactly what he's looking at without comparisons necessary, which may be misconstrued in interpretation!

I'm sure that the authenticators at the larger companies have specialist level expertise in some cases, but that doesn't equate to every case! In my opinion, as soon as you need to resort to exemplars to assist your decision making, you are not a specialist and are more subject to error. Anymore than a doctor would have to refer to exemplars x-rays of broken bones to interpret if a bone is broken on a different patient. A doctor should be able to determine a fracture by the X-Ray alone without comparing it to another one to teach him what it should look like!

Auto material prices have skyrocketed in the past 20 years, and the level of authenticity reliance has plummeted since now most authentication has given way to the jacks of all trades with their trusty exemplar files instead of the specialists.

 

[JollyComics]

1 hour ago, James J Johnson said:

Here's what happened in the autograph hobby. They became expensive and mainstream authentication services like PSA/DNA started up. Prior to that, when one sought an opinion on authenticity, they went to the highest authority; the foremost expert in the field, for that particular autograph! Sure, there were experts who looked at items from many different genres, hundreds, thousands of different signers and they kept exemplar files to assist them in their detection, if they weren't as familiar with some as others. But specialists; those that had a very high degree of expertise in a particular signer was consulted. Much like is you wanted to sell a John Glenn signed photo, a Mr. Zipper COA would bear a whole heck of a lot more weight that a PSA COA, Z is the #1 aero-space authority, unquestionably.

In most cases, a specialist can authenticate without having to review his exemplar files. He knows exactly what he's looking at without comparisons necessary, which may be misconstrued in interpretation!

I'm sure that the authenticators at the larger companies have specialist level expertise in some cases, but that doesn't equate to every case! In my opinion, as soon as you need to resort to exemplars to assist your decision making, you are not a specialist and are more subject to error. Anymore than a doctor would have to refer to exemplars x-rays of broken bones to interpret if a bone is broken on a different patient. A doctor should be able to determine a fracture by the X-Ray alone without comparing it to another one to teach him what it should look like!

Auto material prices have skyrocketed in the past 20 years, and the level of authenticity reliance has plummeted since now most authentication has given way to the jacks of all trades with their trusty exemplar files instead of the specialists.

 

Well spoken.  That is the reason that I didn't buy the autographs.  It's just a thing however I do have some memorabilia on my own from my father who spent on his business trips for most of 33 years.  He met many interesting people.  I have Neil Armstrong's headshot, Bobby Hull's Algonquin Legendary Canadian Beer postcard, Kitty O'Neil's & David Prowse's personal postcards (both visited my schools) and John Bench's signed CNN baseball (CNN - Central Coast & Newcastle Line). I don't remember all others related railroad business that my dad collected for me. He managed to have nearly all of them signing items for me.  I have to dig them up somewhere I buried in the basement. I never threw them away because I still have fond of my dad who always have thought of me while he was away.

[eee91]

11 hours ago, Krismusic said:

did they (vold) really stop authenticating Stan, Ditko and Kirby signatures? 

No. Vold still authenticates. But the Oregon-based "competitor" has stopped authenticating Stan, Ditko, Kirby. 

 

[dupont2005]

Forging Stan Lee signs is like counterfeiting Jim Lee X-Men #1’s