Moderns are basically just SA DC Imaginary Stories 1 1

[kav]

"What if in an alternate world, bruce wayne got shot by joe "mama" chill and his DAD became Batman?"
"What if Gwen Stacy didnt die and got spider powers?"
"What if jane foster was thor?"
etc

Edited June 22, 2020 by kav

[F For Fake]

Well...they're ALL imaginary stories, really.

[kav]

2 minutes ago, Agent666 said:

I don't understand how the thread title relates to what you wrote here.

I dont understand how you dont understand that.

[kav]

Just now, Agent666 said:

So you're saying Mark Millar's "American Jesus" is just a rehash of What if Jane Foster became Thor?

[Hollywood1892]

10 minutes ago, Agent666 said:

I don't understand how the thread title relates to what you wrote here.

Come on Man, its blatantly obvious what correlation is being correlated 

[kav]

3 minutes ago, Agent666 said:

I don't understand what you're trying to say here

I know

[Chaz G.]

What if . . . I understood what was going on here?

[kav]

@Buzzetta

[BorderlineHoarder]

How else are you gonna restart the numbering every 3 years? 

[kav]

1 minute ago, BorderlineHoarder said:

How else are you gonna restart the numbering every 3 years? 

Bingo

[kav]

What if Batman's uncle Ben had been killed by Thanos and he got the super soldier serum and the guardians picked him to be the green latrine of this sector and while hiking he found thor's hammer-

[Mercury Man]

I kind of agree with you @kav.  I think one of the worst thing Marvel did, was let the Cosmic Cube, become this re-occurring thing, that lets alternate history get written, where people are haphazardly killed, origins revised, heroes replaced and reality altered, only to ++poof++, have it all put back together, like nothing ever happened.   (The Secret Empire debacle springs to mind).   The writers get to be lazy with a Cosmic Cube in their back pocket. 

[kav]

7 minutes ago, Mercury Man said:

I kind of agree with you @kav.  I think one of the worst thing Marvel did, was let the Cosmic Cube, become this re-occurring thing, that lets alternate history get written, where people are haphazardly killed, origins revised, heroes replaced and reality altered, only to ++poof++, have it all put back together, like nothing ever happened.   (The Secret Empire debacle springs to mind).   The writers get to be lazy with a Cosmic Cube in their back pocket. 

Its like some meta plot McGuffin.

[Hollywood1892]

1 hour ago, kav said:

What if Batman's uncle Ben had been killed by Thanos and he got the super soldier serum and the guardians picked him to be the green latrine of this sector and while hiking he found thor's hammer-

Who wants to be a latrine?

[Ken Aldred]

2 hours ago, F For Fake said:

Well...they're ALL imaginary stories, really.

Yup.  And Lee and Kirby have been referred to as imaginauts.

[kav]

36 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

Who wants to be a latrine?

GREEN latrine.

[Ken Aldred]

2 hours ago, Agent666 said:

I'm with ya! Somehow all modern comics are SA DC imaginary stories even though that makes no sense.

Modern comics aren't as insanely plotted as DC Silver Age comics.  Some of those are completely mental.

[F For Fake]

To address @kav's original question, in regard to superhero books from the Big Two (I realize that's a lot of qualification, but I think that's specifically what he's talking about) I think we see more recycled concepts, mash-up characters and reboots simply because work for hire creators don't want to make new characters for these companies when they'll have no financial stake in their eventual translation into movies, tv, games etc. So, we see the same characters and storylines endlessly regurgitated in increasingly absurd scenarios.

(Big name creators with special/exclusive deals would potentially be exempt from this, of course.)

Why give them your best new character/concept when you can make your name "creating" the latest Deadpool/Gwen Stacy/Venom hybrid, and then take your clout and audience with you to a creator owned title? 

I can't say that's definitely the case, but it makes sense to me. I don't keep up with modern superheroes much (aside from paying my usual Batman tax) so I could be wrong, of course. I'm often wrong. Reliably so!

As a side note, I think continuity is one of the worst things that ever happened to modern superhero comics. They're fantasies. Why needlessly hamper them with rules about how they all have to fit together?

Also, I'm against practical costumes in spandex books that are supposed to be more "believable" in the real world, for the same reason.

Also, get off my lawn!

And also, how come Batman doesn't dance anymore?

 

[kav]

1 minute ago, F For Fake said:

Also, I'm against practical costumes in spandex books that are supposed to be more "believable" in the real world, for the same reason.

 

Batman's costume in the movies would be nearly impossible to fight in.  Thats why olympic athletes dont wear similar.

[Ken Aldred]

3 hours ago, kav said:

"What if jane foster was thor?"

The Bronze Age's What If? 10 is a very, very, mediocre, superficial story.

Jason Aaron's run with Jane Foster as Thor is excellent, and one of the best extended narratives of the last decade. 

Sometimes the exploration of a theme in greater detail, decades later, is well worth it.