Chudders Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Hi recently purchased a Spider-man Venom Double Trouble 2 Momoko. Front cover is in good condition with no problems, just a couple of concerns on the back. The spine tick is tiny and was hard to spot as the back cover is an advert designed to look like a damaged poster. The colour-breaking tick is by the 2.1cm mark (it's not 2.1 cm long : ) The tiny edge damage is by the 2cm mark What chance of a 9.8 with these two flaws? T Thanks for looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What’s that giant white mark in the first pic on the black? Also this is better to post whole pics in the Hey Buddy Can Ya Spare A Grade section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I would not be confident in 9.8, though you’ll get more and better advice in the PGM section good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9.8 unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 That looks like an ink rub. NOT a 9.8. Sorry, partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 4:30 PM, Chudders said: What chance of a 9.8 with these two flaws? None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys_Collector Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Definitely not a 9.8, more like a 9.9 or Gem Mint 10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Keys_Collector said: Definitely not a 9.8, more like a 9.9 or Gem Mint 10! Ah, you must be referring to CBCS standards for that............... Edited June 29, 2020 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, kimik said: Ah, you must be referring to CBCS standards for that............... More like PGX Keys_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, William-James88 said: 23 minutes ago, kimik said: Ah, you must be referring to CBCS standards for that............... More like PGX Based on books I have seen/briefly owned, CBCS is almost as bad in the 9.6 and higher grades. There is a reason that CBCS books sell for a discount relative to CGC.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys_Collector Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, kimik said: Based on books I have seen/briefly owned, CBCS is almost as bad in the 9.6 and higher grades. There is a reason that CBCS books sell for a discount relative to CGC.......... IMO the reason is because of CGC having more of a foothold in the hobby at an earlier stage rather then consistency related to grading. I'm not a CBCS person myself but I've found their grading more times then not to be on par with CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Keys_Collector said: IMO the reason is because of CGC having more of a foothold in the hobby at an earlier stage rather then consistency related to grading. I'm not a CBCS person myself but I've found their grading more times then not to be on par with CGC. The last few CBCS 9.6 and 9.8 books I bought for a nice enough discount to look at re-subbing had defects you don't find in CGC books in those grades. There are more opportunities in the low to mid grade range, but even there it is a crapshoot where more often than not the CBCS grade is higher by a half to full grade that what you end up with from CGC. The funny thing is, there was a period in the late 00s where PGX was actually stricter than CGC. I sent in a bunch of PGX books I landed in a collection that were not selling due to the label, and they all came back half to 2 full grades higher from CGC without pressing. I had two 9.2s that looked much better in the PGX slab come back as 9.8 from CGC upon resubmission. I wish I had sent all of them in first instead of selling some of the better books (multiple Conan 1s, SS 1s and 4s, Subby 1s, etc.) on eBay right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, kimik said: Based on books I have seen/briefly owned, CBCS is almost as bad in the 9.6 and higher grades. There is a reason that CBCS books sell for a discount relative to CGC.......... Times have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Keys_Collector said: IMO the reason is because of CGC having more of a foothold in the hobby at an earlier stage rather then consistency related to grading. I'm not a CBCS person myself but I've found their grading more times then not to be on par with CGC. Deadpoolica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 0% chance of a 9.8 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 6:45 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: 9.8 unlikely. Like one of my grader friends used to say: "Crushing someone's eBay dreams..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys_Collector Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, The Lions Den said: Not sure I understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/29/2020 at 7:19 PM, Keys_Collector said: Not sure I understand... I apologize for any confusion, but since at least two of the main graders for "Can't Buy Can't Sell" used to grade for CGC, I find it somewhat ironic when folks point out the difference in grading between the two companies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImageMask Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: I apologize for any confusion, but since at least two of the main graders for "Can't Buy Can't Sell" used to grade for CGC, I find it somewhat ironic when folks point out the difference in grading between the two companies... So because they are the same graders the grades will be the same? Grading guidelines, criteria, standards, etc. between the two companies won't have a impact in the final grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 23 hours ago, ImageMask said: So because they are the same graders the grades will be the same? Grading guidelines, criteria, standards, etc. between the two companies won't have a impact in the final grade? From what I've seen, professional graders are pretty consistent with how they arrive at their grades. But if you want to think that all those other things make a difference, I'm cool with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
