Gaard Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 20 hours ago, The Lions Den said: Thanks for the insightful reply. I have worked a variety of different jobs, but working for CGC was totally unique. Even though I knew how to grade (or at least, I thought I did) working there as a grader was very different from any other experience I've ever had. It was very challenging on a number of different levels. One thing I remember thinking is that it's one of those jobs that's a lot harder than it sounds. And to be honest, I was so immersed in it that I really didn't have much time for anything else. I'm happy to be able to relate at least some of the things I've learned to my fellow board members. I hope it's helpful for you to hear about things from a grader's perspective. It does sadden me when I hear of so many of you being disappointed with the grading lately. One thing I can tell you is that grading does tend to fluctuate. I used to call this "the ebb and flow" of the grading room. From my perspective, sitting in a room with a bunch of other graders can be a rather daunting task. For instance, if your grades are off, you will definitely receive feedback from other graders, often immediately. No one likes it when one of the graders is off...I suppose the subliminal fear is that it could be contagious. My hope is that this problem will be quickly corrected and things will return to where they were before. Time will tell... Can I ask if your departure from CGC was amicable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Gaard said: Can I ask if your departure from CGC was amicable? Yes, of course. It was very amicable. Gaard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlowUpTheMoon Posted July 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Red_Hood said: 10 hours ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: @Red_Hood So you can't show us the 9.4s that you think should have been 9.8s? It's not a matter of can't..... It's a matter of won't..... As I mentioned on the first page of this thread...there are too many projects to deal with each day and there's not enough time in a day. I'm not about to undertake another project to appease a couple people, I focus my time on things that generate money. I'm not alone, the opinion of many other people in this thread speaks volumes about the under grading. Let me know if I have this straight: You've got the time to post a thread where: • You call out a grader CGC for "being on a rampage", who is "a cowboy trying to make a name for himself at the company" • You call out CGC to "retrain the one grader" • You claim "there's not enough time in the day", while still responding multiple times to this thread; You don't have the 15 minutes needed to scan in the "walk-in-the-park" 9.8s that received 9.4s Is this correct? Edited July 21, 2020 by BlowUpTheMoon Deadpoolica, theCapraAegagrus, D84 and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sChild Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 What is the time frame for this too-tight grading? What about May 2020? Found this on ebay looks to have at least 3 non color breaker spine ticks and maybe 2 of them even break color? Could argue it is light reflection but doesn't appear that way. All on a black cover no less and still it got a 9.8 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Let me know if I have this straight: You've got the time to post a thread where: • You call out a grader CGC for "being on a rampage", who is "a cowboy trying to make a name for himself at the company" • You call out CGC to "retrain the one grader" • You claim "there's not enough time in the day", while still responding multiple times to this thread; You don't have the 15 minutes needed to scan in the "walk-in-the-park" 9.8s that received 9.4s Is this correct? Yup...that pretty much sums it up. I guess with 38,000 posts you have "the time" for frivolous activities, whereas I couldn't be bothered appeasing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, 90sChild said: What is the time frame for this too-tight grading? What about May 2020? Found this on ebay looks to have at least 3 non color breaker spine ticks and maybe 2 of them even break color? Could argue it is light reflection but doesn't appear that way. All on a black cover no less and still it got a 9.8 anyway. There in lies the issue stated from the start. CONSISTENCY !!!!!! This wasn't graded by "THAT" grader.... damn people .... stay on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Red_Hood said: 4 hours ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Let me know if I have this straight: You've got the time to post a thread where: • You call out a grader CGC for "being on a rampage", who is "a cowboy trying to make a name for himself at the company" • You call out CGC to "retrain the one grader" • You claim "there's not enough time in the day", while still responding multiple times to this thread; You don't have the 15 minutes needed to scan in the "walk-in-the-park" 9.8s that received 9.4s Is this correct? Yup...that pretty much sums it up. I guess with 38,000 posts you have "the time" for frivolous activities, whereas I couldn't be bothered appeasing you. That's a wonderful ad hominem post. If you want to go there, it seems like you are only here to sell and nothing else. On 7/15/2020 at 5:24 PM, Red_Hood said: I want my 1000% profit margins back on these junky-arse modern books. Edited July 21, 2020 by BlowUpTheMoon Park, theCapraAegagrus, Chaos_in_Canada and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: 17 minutes ago, Red_Hood said: 32 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Let me know if I have this straight: You've got the time to post a thread where: • You call out a grader CGC for "being on a rampage", who is "a cowboy trying to make a name for himself at the company" • You call out CGC to "retrain the one grader" • You claim "there's not enough time in the day", while still responding multiple times to this thread; You don't have the 15 minutes needed to scan in the "walk-in-the-park" 9.8s that received 9.4s Is this correct? Yup...that pretty much sums it up. I guess with 38,000 posts you have "the time" for frivolous activities, whereas I couldn't be bothered appeasing you. That's a wonderful ad hominem post. If you want to go there, it seems like you are only here to sell and nothing else. The irony is, I wouldn't buy a book from him if he owned the only comic in the world. Chaos_in_Canada, Park and BlowUpTheMoon 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) He’s a charmer. Edited July 21, 2020 by Buzzetta greggy and Deadpoolica 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This may rub people the wrong way but to me a 9.4 is as good as a 9.8 so I dont see the point in paying multiples more just to not have one spine tick or slightly blunted corner. Deadpoolica, D84, thegiftedone45 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, comicginger1789 said: This may rub people the wrong way but to me a 9.4 is as good as a 9.8 so I dont see the point in paying multiples more just to not have one spine tick or slightly blunted corner. I understand that you're merely generalizing to make your point, but the gap between a 9.4 and 9.8 *should* be more significant than that 100% of the time, with a margin of error of 0%. Sadly, this is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 hours ago, comicginger1789 said: This may rub people the wrong way but to me a 9.4 is as good as a 9.8 so I dont see the point in paying multiples more just to not have one spine tick or slightly blunted corner. They are paying for a number in the corner, not the book. 🤦♂️ comicginger1789, Tedsaid, theCapraAegagrus and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDKR Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Why is it that they do not post the graders notes? Isn't that one of the most important parts of sending in your books? I think if i am using their service wouldn't the proper thing to do on their part is explain why I got the grade i did. Then at least i can check the book and verify what they found. I think there is something very wrong with that picture. Is this correct that if there are no graders notes that you have to pay additional money? TheGeneral 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, TDKR said: Why is it that they do not post the graders notes? Isn't that one of the most important parts of sending in your books? I think if i am using their service wouldn't the proper thing to do on their part is explain why I got the grade i did. Then at least i can check the book and verify what they found. I think there is something very wrong with that picture. Is this correct that if there are no graders notes that you have to pay additional money? The answer below can also apply to the question above: "It's not a matter of can't..... It's a matter of won't..... there are too many projects to deal with each day and there's not enough time in a day.I'm not about to undertake another project to appease a couple people, I focus my time on things that generate money.I'm not alone, the opinion of many other people in this thread speaks volumes about the under grading" theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBEN Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) How about retrain the quality control guys as well A RESTORED book should not be able to be slabbed with the new labels Case and point on eBay right now https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-9-CGC-8-5-OW-W-Marvel-1964-1st-Electro/224089236480?hash=item342cc26400:g:xkEAAOSw~-RfFzwX I attached a couple that I could , the seller is offering many and no restoration disclosed and they are in a disgustingly mis slabbed blue label Edited July 22, 2020 by UncleBEN TheGeneral, Haljordanfan and theCapraAegagrus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, UncleBEN said: How about retrain the quality control guys as well A RESTORED book should not be able to be slabbed with the new labels Case and point on eBay right now https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-9-CGC-8-5-OW-W-Marvel-1964-1st-Electro/224089236480?hash=item342cc26400:g:xkEAAOSw~-RfFzwX I attached a couple that I could , the seller is offering many and no restoration disclosed and they are in a disgustingly mis slabbed blue label Part of the reason I abhor these labels. Deadpoolica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Part of the reason I abhor these labels. Same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) On 7/20/2020 at 8:12 PM, comicdonna said: The irony is, I wouldn't buy a book from him if he owned the only comic in the world. Isn't that weird... I just got my latest 25 modern books and they are full of junky-arse stuff that got 9.8 that somebody else will pay way more for then golden age Action Comics that nobody gives a rats-arse for except some old guy that posts a pic of his dog taking dog poops. Edited July 23, 2020 by Red_Hood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobotski Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 10:43 PM, UncleBEN said: How about retrain the quality control guys as well A RESTORED book should not be able to be slabbed with the new labels Case and point on eBay right now https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-9-CGC-8-5-OW-W-Marvel-1964-1st-Electro/224089236480?hash=item342cc26400:g:xkEAAOSw~-RfFzwX I attached a couple that I could , the seller is offering many and no restoration disclosed and they are in a disgustingly mis slabbed blue label So, if you reholder these again to a regular blue label, do you effectively lose the restoration classification? Sounds dodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, bobotski said: So, if you reholder these again to a regular blue label, do you effectively lose the restoration classification? Sounds dodgy. There are probably restoration notes on back of the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...