Can an Ebay seller really be this Unaware??? or is it a scam??? 5 5

[kav]

16 minutes ago, tvindy said:

 

My comic collection was almost entirely amassed in my childhood from the mid-70s to late 80s By the 90s, I had moved on to other things. (I still have my collection, though, and it's one of my most treasured possessions.) I have very little familiarity with 90s comics. I'm not surprised that most comics from that decade have almost no monetary value. That makes sense, since collectors were hoarding them in large numbers as investments. But I'm really surprised to hear that the quality was so bad, to the point that no one even wants to read them, even if they're free. What exactly happened in the 90s? Did all the big-name writers just walk out?

What happened was everything became like liefeld.  He was a big name and even tho the stories and art were awful, they SOLD.  No one knows quite why.  So everyone emulated the Liefeld type books.  Solid artists like Curt Swan suddenly couldnt get much work-he didnt draw like liefeld or Jim Lee.  It was out with the old, in with the bad.  They also focused on foil covers and relegated writing to a back seat.  People thought the new foil books they bought 30 copies of would be worth Action #1 money in a few years.  LCS owners scoffed at golden age books and stocked up on foils.

Edited September 11, 2020 by kav

[kav]

I recall one boardie had a neighbor who literally filled his garage with boxes of death of superman.  He was certain he would be a multimillionaire.   

[gadzukes]

26 minutes ago, kav said:

stocked up on foils.

It's so true.  What a bad era for our great hobby.

[kav]

Just now, gadzukes said:

It's so true.  What a bad era for our great hobby.

I guess thats why they sold so well-people werent reading them or buying them for any quality content they just bought into the HYPE.

[James J Johnson]

29 minutes ago, Tony S said:

You don't give yourself enough credit. It was some fine detective work on your part. 

Thank you. 

[kav]

Just now, James J Johnson said:

Thank you. 

Never saw Batman the 'world's greatest detective' do much actual detective work like this.  

[James J Johnson]

5 minutes ago, kav said:

I recall one boardie had a neighbor who literally filled his garage with boxes of death of superman.  He was certain he would be a multimillionaire.   

He should have bet the money on double 0, one spin, win or lose. His chances would have been better. 

[kav]

2 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

He should have bet the money on double 0, one spin, win or lose. His chances would have been better. 

Indeed.  Plus he wouldnt have to pay someone to haul it all away.

[kav]

I still see the variant madness as a replay of the foil cover era.
We'll see.

[kustomizer]

31 minutes ago, tvindy said:

 

My comic collection was almost entirely amassed in my childhood from the mid-70s to late 80s By the 90s, I had moved on to other things. (I still have my collection, though, and it's one of my most treasured possessions.) I have very little familiarity with 90s comics. I'm not surprised that most comics from that decade have almost no monetary value. That makes sense, since collectors were hoarding them in large numbers as investments. But I'm really surprised to hear that the quality was so bad, to the point that no one even wants to read them, even if they're free. What exactly happened in the 90s? Did all the big-name writers just walk out?

There was just an attitude that any old garbage would sell, and for a while it did. Now it just clogs up peoples' garages like cholesterol in an artery.

[kav]

1 minute ago, kustomizer said:

There was just an attitude that any old garbage would sell, and for a while it did. Now it just clogs up peoples' garages like cholesterol in an artery.

Even landfills dont want em.
"Take that garbage somewhere else!!"

[gadzukes]

19 minutes ago, kav said:

Even landfills dont want em.
"Take that garbage somewhere else!!"

Maybe we should have a good old fashion book burning.  Bring your 90s drek

[kav]

When people are paying big bucks for books that just came out-like they did in the 90s, thats screams 'BUBBLE!' to me.

[kustomizer]

Just now, gadzukes said:

Maybe we should have a good old fashion book burning.  Bring your 90s drek

I guess if we burn 99% of it, the surviving copies would finally be "rare".

[kav]

2 minutes ago, kustomizer said:

I guess if we burn 99% of it, the surviving copies would finally be "rare".

FINALLY

[James J Johnson]

7 minutes ago, kav said:

Indeed.  Plus he wouldnt have to pay someone to haul it all away.

There's a very wise man in this hobby who would simply haul it out to the curb, stick a sign on the pile, "Free Comics", and save himself the expense of having it hauled away.   

[gadzukes]

19 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

There's a very wise man in this hobby who would simply haul it out to the curb, stick a sign on the pile, "Free Comics", and save himself the expense of having it hauled away.   

And 10 years later it would still be on the curb.

[tvindy]

25 minutes ago, kav said:

What happened was everything became like liefeld.  He was a big name and even tho the stories and art were awful, they SOLD.  No one knows quite why.  So everyone emulated the Liefeld type books.  Solid artists like Curt Swan suddenly couldnt get much work-he didnt draw like liefeld or Jim Lee.  It was out with the old, in with the bad.  They also focused on foil covers and relegated writing to a back seat.  People thought the new foil books they bought 30 copies of would be worth Action #1 money in a few years.  LCS owners scoffed at golden age books and stocked up on foils.

Interesting. I guess the industry just became complacent after their success in the 80s. I can see how foil covers would look cool to people in the 90s, though.

[kav]

Just now, gadzukes said:

And 10 years later it would still be on the curb.

-with a bunch of other boxes!
"Oh is this where we dump drek?"

[kav]

Just now, tvindy said:

Interesting. I guess the industry just became complacent after their success in the 80s. I can see how foil covers would look cool to people in the 90s, though.

The 80s was an explosion of creativity.  The 90s it was a foil cash grab.