INVESTMENTS: Is it time to realize the truth? 3 3

[Old_Man_Adam]

1 minute ago, lizards2 said:

 That never gets old! 

One of my all time faves , suitable for all occasions 

[lizards2]

3 minutes ago, Mephisto said:

16 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

There are plenty of the SA books without the tanning/toning - these manifestations are a result of improper storage and improper storage conditions. I have books purchased 50 years ago that have no degradation such as tanning/toning covers, pages, etc.

You mean like the countless insufficiently_thoughtful_persons who I see displaying their books next to their statues and trying to guess the percentage of ones that are going to wind up with faded covers in the CGC cases? Not to mention all the one’s I see displayed on walls in just their cases with no UV protection.

I guess.  Lots of choices out there. Ruining my books is not what I choose to do. I think if you care and have half a brain, the damage can be at least mitigated.

[Old_Man_Adam]

5 minutes ago, Mephisto said:

You mean like the countless insufficiently_thoughtful_persons who I see displaying their books next to their statues and trying to guess the percentage of ones that are going to wind up with faded covers in the CGC cases? Not to mention all the one’s I see displayed on walls in just their cases with no UV protection.

In a perfect world -I would love to mount my books on my wall - but the threat / fear of fading and or degrading is real ...so in boxes they remain 

[lizards2]

2 minutes ago, Old_Man_Adam said:

In a perfect world -I would love to mount my books on my wall - but the threat / fear of fading and or degrading is real ...so in boxes they remain 

We hardly ever have anyone over, so the point of mounting books on the wall escapes me? Are they to impress others or impress yourself?   I don't know.  Because I actually don't get it.  When people do come over, I can pick some stuff out of the boxes or piles to suit the conversation.

Today, at home, Pokey the turtle was rampaging around her habitat during breakfast (ours), killing worms and scratching at the glass. I was quickly able to quickly locate some rampaging turtle covers (From Beyond the Unknown, etc.), both from the piles and from the boxes to show the wife and youngest son. War turtles.  Cool! 

[Mephisto]

9 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

I guess.  Lots of choices out there. Ruining my books is not what I choose to do. I think if you care and have half a brain, the damage can be at least mitigated.

Which I feel like the newer breed of collector’s I have seen over the past 5 years don’t have...some of the stuff I have seen on Facebook 😬.

[lizards2]

1 minute ago, Mephisto said:

12 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

I guess.  Lots of choices out there. Ruining my books is not what I choose to do. I think if you care and have half a brain, the damage can be at least mitigated.

Which I feel like the newer breed of collector’s I have seen over the past 5 years don’t have...some of the stuff I have seen on Facebook 😬.

Yeah, I don't do that. The CGC chat boards are the only social media I do. My wife calls this place, "Facebook for Nerds". Lovingly, I might add.

[Mephisto]

4 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

Yeah, I don't do that. The CGC chat boards are the only social media I do. My wife calls this place, "Facebook for Nerds". Lovingly, I might add.

They are so cringe worthy i have long left all collectible groups save one a friend runs and it is not anything I really collect.

The CGC boards on the other hand my fiancé tells me to get off of late at night so I actually go to sleep...yet we have invited about 4 boardies to our wedding.

[lizards2]

1 minute ago, Mephisto said:

7 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

Yeah, I don't do that. The CGC chat boards are the only social media I do. My wife calls this place, "Facebook for Nerds". Lovingly, I might add.

They are so cringe worthy i have long left all collectible groups save one a friend runs and it is not anything I really collect.

The CGC boards on the other hand my fiancé tells me to get off of late at night so I actually go to sleep...yet we have invited about 4 boardies to our wedding.

Yeah - and I note, not me.  I would be good for dropping the deuce in the punchbowl, though!  

I'm just sorry for the valuable boardies we've driven away. Like Doc Watson, who was one of my faves!  Maybe someday, he will come back...., if he makes it out of Dale's basement purgatory....,  

[the blob]

5 hours ago, lizards2 said:

We hardly ever have anyone over, so the point of mounting books on the wall escapes me? Are they to impress others or impress yourself?   I don't know.  Because I actually don't get it.  When people do come over, I can pick some stuff out of the boxes or piles to suit the conversation.

Today, at home, Pokey the turtle was rampaging around her habitat during breakfast (ours), killing worms and scratching at the glass. I was quickly able to quickly locate some rampaging turtle covers (From Beyond the Unknown, etc.), both from the piles and from the boxes to show the wife and youngest son. War turtles.  Cool! 

Because comics are art. And people hang art on their walls.

[the blob]

Don't they make glass that protects against light damage? Pretty sure folks don't want their Picasso drawing or expensive water color painting faded either. Or rare prints.

[1950's war comics]

9 hours ago, Mephisto said:

I don’t even watch Baseball anymore but find myself more interested in potentially buying cards from the late 20’s-early 50’s. 🤷‍♂️. 

i'm thinking of getting back into coins... many key coins have remained stable while comic prices have gone sky high..might be time to sell some comics and put the profits into some coins i always wanted but couldn't afford

[Mercury Man]

7 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said:

i'm thinking of getting back into coins... many key coins have remained stable while comic prices have gone sky high..might be time to sell some comics and put the profits into some coins i always wanted but couldn't afford

When the Zombie apocalypse comes, gold-silver-copper will be more in demand than paper goods.   I think you have a good plan since we are getting close....

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

33 minutes ago, Mercury Man said:

When the Zombie apocalypse comes, gold-silver-copper weapons will be more in demand than paper goods.   I think you have a good plan since we are getting close....

FTFY

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

9 hours ago, lizards2 said:

We hardly ever have anyone over, so the point of mounting books on the wall escapes me? Are they to impress others or impress yourself?   I don't know.  Because I actually don't get it.  When people do come over, I can pick some stuff out of the boxes or piles to suit the conversation.

Today, at home, Pokey the turtle was rampaging around her habitat during breakfast (ours), killing worms and scratching at the glass. I was quickly able to quickly locate some rampaging turtle covers (From Beyond the Unknown, etc.), both from the piles and from the boxes to show the wife and youngest son. War turtles.  Cool! 

Some people just like to look at their own collections. Whenever I check out the first books I bought, it always brings back good memories.

[Mercury Man]

30 minutes ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

FTFY

Yes but you can make weapons out of said items.  You can really only roll up an Action Comics #1 and swat flies. 

[Buzzetta]

23 hours ago, lizards2 said:

I can't believe the comic market right now, as far as the skyrocketing sales/values.  I've talked with some other collectors, and we are mostly feeling like we are being priced out of the market.  Seems like a great time to sell, with eBay auctions and the like realizing double what my max bids would be.  I guess I did get some bottom-feeding in on the recent Comic Connect auction, but that seems to be a rarer and scarcer event these days.

 

22 hours ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

Prices are bonkers right now.  The question is how much more bonkers are they going to get?

I've casually mentioned this before.  It's not bonkers to the new guard.  It is bonkers to the old guard. 

We are getting old. 

There is the possibility that this is not a bubble that is about to burst but a changing of the guard.

Let's look at AF 15 and Hulk 181. 

AF15 7.0

• 2002 High $7,000 
• 2020 High $110,000

Hulk 181 9.4

• 2002 High $2,350
• 2020 High $10,000 with a $12,000 high in 2019.

Now to us, those prices are insane.  Think of the price you paid for a book that has popped in the last few years.  At the price you paid, that is what it cost.  Could you justify paying "Y" for a book knowing that it really only cost you "X" when you bought it years ago? 

To us, those books are very high.  To the new blood, that's what they go for.  "It is what it is"  Lamenting that they should have bought a Hulk 181 in 9.4 for $3,000 is like one of us saying we should have bought a copy for $50 back in the 1980's.  There is nothing they can do about that so a Hulk 181 in 9.4 at $10,000 IS normal for them...  For us, it is outrageous and we can sell it and happily take their money.   For the n00bz, $10,000 for a Hulk 181 9.4 is quite possibly the investment that could have been at one point buying an AF 15 in 9.4 for $10,000.  We see a bubble that might burst.  They see a bubble that has the opportunity to grow. 

I could easily be wrong.   But all of this could possibly be new blood getting attracted to the hobby. 

 

Edited December 25, 2020 by Buzzetta

[ygogolak]

16 hours ago, valiantman said:

RallyRd.com thanks you for the commercial and all of its users thank you for not competing with them.

Rally is an insider trading scheme with those not knowledgeable providing the liquid.

They are setup with “investors” and “advisors” who can (and likely will) supply the product being offered. Likely at a higher than market “evaluation”. Where does this evaluation come from? Places where the previous high sale cannot be verified.

I suggest if this is something someone is interested in that they review their Conflict of Interest. You will then find a lot of words that state it doesn’t exist.

[lizards2]

1 hour ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

10 hours ago, lizards2 said:

We hardly ever have anyone over, so the point of mounting books on the wall escapes me? Are they to impress others or impress yourself?   I don't know.  Because I actually don't get it.  When people do come over, I can pick some stuff out of the boxes or piles to suit the conversation.

Today, at home, Pokey the turtle was rampaging around her habitat during breakfast (ours), killing worms and scratching at the glass. I was quickly able to quickly locate some rampaging turtle covers (From Beyond the Unknown, etc.), both from the piles and from the boxes to show the wife and youngest son. War turtles.  Cool! 

Some people just like to look at their own collections. Whenever I check out the first books I bought, it always brings back good memories.

So I guess I hang prints and paintings and stuff. Maybe not like normal people. Very little hanging space in the house after the wife's prints, photos, paintings and my antlers, bear and mountain lion rugs.

[lizards2]

1 hour ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

2 hours ago, Mercury Man said:

When the Zombie apocalypse comes, gold-silver-copper weapons will be more in demand than paper goods.   I think you have a good plan since we are getting close....

FTFY

And that's why I've spent thousands on ammo this past fall, and my wife got me a new Sig Sauer P365 SAS for Christmas.

Actually, the Sig is for carrying in the woods while walking the dog, as we have a mountain lion and wolf problem around here now.

[blazingbob]

4 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

So I guess I hang prints and paintings and stuff. Maybe not like normal people. Very little hanging space in the house after the wife's prints, photos, paintings and my antlers, bear and mountain lion rugs.

I have that Bolland print on my wall.  Great great gallery of villains page