Buying a Variant signed comic 1 1

[McRib]

So if a comic company releases a rare variant like 500:1 where all copies of this variant are signed by the author, how does CGC handle verification of signature? Or is it Blue Label and remarked that this variant is signed by Joe Author?

[revat]

Situations may vary with the comic.  I’d suggest contacting Cgc directly with your specific query 

[William-James88]

6 hours ago, McRib said:

So if a comic company releases a rare variant like 500:1 where all copies of this variant are signed by the author, how does CGC handle verification of signature? Or is it Blue Label and remarked that this variant is signed by Joe Author?

it wont. CGC will only ever validate a signature if it has been witnessed by them. And it will be green label in your scenario, so that comic should not be sent to CGC.

By the way gang, is it just me or are we getting lots of autographed raw comics questions recently? It's a pretty black and white topic for CGC. If they didn't witness it, no dice.

Edited January 29, 2021 by William-James88

[McRib]

Look man, I get if it's a random sig. What I am saying is that ALL COPIES of this variant are signed. I would think they would confirm the variant is the variant but not with a "Yellow Label"

[theCapraAegagrus]

2 hours ago, McRib said:

Look man, I get if it's a random sig. What I am saying is that ALL COPIES of this variant are signed. I would think they would confirm the variant is the variant but not with a "Yellow Label"

The label will say what variant it is, but it'll get a Qualified Label (if the signature is legible). It won't be "verified".

[Prince Namor]

3 hours ago, McRib said:

Look man, I get if it's a random sig. What I am saying is that ALL COPIES of this variant are signed. I would think they would confirm the variant is the variant but not with a "Yellow Label"

There is absolutely no way to verify that all copies have been signed. Or even what the actual print run is. Regardless of what a publisher says. They all keep that actual info closely guarded. It just is what it is.

That's why CGC sees it as - if we don't witness it, we don't verify it.

That way they avoid a scandal - at a later date the publisher says, "Oh look a whole bunch of non-signed copies show up" and then it puts a question into CGC's verification methods. 

[Get Marwood & I]

3 hours ago, McRib said:

Look man, I get if it's a random sig. What I am saying is that ALL COPIES of this variant are signed. I would think they would confirm the variant is the variant but not with a "Yellow Label"

I see the distinction you are making here McRib - if a comic can be confirmed to exist only as a limited signed variant edition then by definition any sole signature on a confirmed non-counterfeit copy must be valid. But as Namor says, can any book be confirmed to have only signed copies in existence? 

To which book are you referring, out of interest? You must have one in mind.

[Brockstar84]

I was wondering the same thing, I have several that have certificates of authenticity I was thinking of having sent away but wasn't sure how they handled such things. In particular I have a nice ASM Kirkham variant signed and authenticated that I wanted to send off. I thought it would be verified just not part of the yellow label signature series.

[McRib]

8 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

I see the distinction you are making here McRib - if a comic can be confirmed to exist only as a limited signed variant edition then by definition any sole signature on a confirmed non-counterfeit copy must be valid. But as Namor says, can any book be confirmed to have only signed copies in existence? 

To which book are you referring, out of interest? You must have one in mind.

The 1:1000 BZRKR variant #1 signed by Reeves BOOM Comics is releasing

 

Edited January 29, 2021 by McRib

[ExNihilo]

13 hours ago, William-James88 said:

By the way gang, is it just me or are we getting lots of autographed raw comics questions recently? It's a pretty black and white topic for CGC. If they didn't witness it, no dice.

This has always been the case.  But the search function in the forum isn't exactly robust, so I understand why the question continually pops up from time to time.

[Get Marwood & I]

17 minutes ago, McRib said:

The 1:1000 BZRKR variant #1 signed by Reeves BOOM Comics is releasing

 

That probably means that stores have to order a thousand regular copies to receive one of the signed variants. So the variant numbers on initial circulation will be determined by the number of stores that go for it. Which means the possibility of any excess - and possibly therefore unsigned - copies finding their way out at some future date is high. So I doubt that CGC would recognise this one as the numbers are not sufficiently controlled to be guranteed. You could ring and ask them though, to be sure. 

[Prince Namor]

1 hour ago, Get Marwood & I said:

That probably means that stores have to order a thousand regular copies to receive one of the signed variants. So the variant numbers on initial circulation will be determined by the number of stores that go for it. Which means the possibility of any excess - and possibly therefore unsigned - copies finding their way out at some future date is high. So I doubt that CGC would recognise this one as the numbers are not sufficiently controlled to be guranteed. You could ring and ask them though, to be sure. 

Actually... the 1:1000 has absolutely no impact on how many copies they decide to print. It does, almost always, mean that, only stores that order 1000, get one - but the publisher can and does print as many copies as they want to. (Interoffice use, mailing lists of professionals, future give aways, print run minimums from printer, etc.)

Now one thing the op can do is contact someone here who does signings and see if they or CGC can arrange something with the publisher... so CGC can be there to witness the signing and take those copies for encapsulation...

[greggy]

1 hour ago, McRib said:

The 1:1000 BZRKR variant #1 signed by Reeves BOOM Comics is releasing

 

I'm pretty sure that I read in the email that the store can arrange to have it sent to CGC directly but since I deleted the email and I didn't really care, I can't really verify. 

[greggy]

CGC, Certified Guaranty Company, is proud to announce they have joined forces with BOOM! Studios to provide a Signature Series signing event exclusively for the BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant.

Each BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant will be signed by Keanu Reeves, creator and co-writer of BRZRKR, and feature cover artwork by Jonboy Meyers.

Keanu Reeves will not be signing any additional items at this exclusive signing event, and the only way to receive a signed copy of BRZRKR #1 during this event is to order the BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant.

Interested Comic Shop Retailers will be able to place orders for the exclusive BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant until Final Order Cutoff on Monday, February 1, 2021 11:59 PM PT. Only retailers whose orders qualify them to order the 1:1000 ratio incentive variant will be able to participate in the CGC signing event.

As they may not participate in the event directly, fans will need to contact their local comic shop retailer and make arrangements to obtain a copy through their preferred retailer. After orders are finalized and audited, BOOM! Studios will contact each retailer to confirm if they would like to have their copy of the 1:1000 ratio incentive variant ship to them ungraded or graded by CGC.

Comic Shop Retailers who confirm their interest in having their copy, or copies, graded will then be contacted by the exclusive facilitator, Joel Elad, at BRZRKR.CGC@gmail.com and 858-863-7872. Mr. Elad will coordinate each retailers’ specific ordering needs, including speed of shipping, preferred courier, and expenses related to ordering copies.

BOOM! Studios will not be offering either ungraded copies of the BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant nor CGC graded copies of BRZRKR #1 1:1000 ratio incentive variant on its webstore or directly for sale to consumers.

Unsigned copies of BRZRKR #1 will be available in comic book stores and other in-store or online retail locations on February 24, 2021.

BRZRKR: The man known only as B. is half-mortal and half-god, cursed and compelled to violence…even at the sacrifice of his sanity. But after wandering the world for centuries, B. may have finally found a refuge – working for the U.S. government to fight the battles too violent and too dangerous for anyone else. In exchange, B. will be granted the one thing he desires – the truth about his endless blood-soaked existence…and how to end it.

BRZRKR #1 features main cover art by superstar illustrator Rafael Grampá ( Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child) and variant cover art by artists Mark Brooks (House of X/Powers of X), Lee Bermejo ( Batman), and Dan Mora (Future State: Dark Detective), as well as the 1-in-1000 signed edition variant cover with art by Jonboy Meyers, and more.

[Jimmy Linguini]

CGC did the same thing with that Jim Lee 1:5000 variant cover, no?

[greggy]

So based on the statement, you can agree to have the book sent to CGC first to get the SS designation if you're a store that ordered enough copies to qualify.

 

[shadroch]

Or buy 1,000 copies yourself. 

It seems like a small price to pay to get a book signed by Mr. Keanu Reeves.

[D2]

4 hours ago, Jimmy Linguini said:

CGC did the same thing with that Jim Lee 1:5000 variant cover, no?

 

 

3 hours ago, shadroch said:

Or buy 1,000 copies yourself. 

It seems like a small price to pay to get a book signed by Mr. Keanu Reeves.

 

[William-James88]

On 1/29/2021 at 5:33 PM, greggy said:

So based on the statement, you can agree to have the book sent to CGC first to get the SS designation if you're a store that ordered enough copies to qualify.

 

Yeah. Since it says you can get the comic graded or ungraded, does this make it a "now or never" type of thing. Meaning that if years from now you buy an ungraded 1:1000 Keanu Reeved signed variant and you send it to CGC, it would come back green? That's what I would assume.

Edited January 30, 2021 by William-James88