Rayhock Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I sent a comic in to be graded and just because someone touched up the color slightly, it came back as an 8.5 restored. It would have been at least 9.2 had the restoration not been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassman10 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rayhock said: I sent a comic in to be graded and just because someone touched up the color slightly, it came back as an 8.5 restored. It would have been at least 9.2 had the restoration not been done. ..and you know it would have been a 9.2 because? I don't hear of many 9.2's that require alterations. Nope, I just don't hear that. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Rayhock said: I sent a comic in to be graded and just because someone touched up the color slightly, it came back as an 8.5 restored. It would have been at least 9.2 had the restoration not been done. That makes no sense. If it were a 9.2 and someone touched it up, it would be a 9.2 Restored or higher. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayhock Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 59 minutes ago, shadroch said: That makes no sense. If it were a 9.2 and someone touched it up, it would be a 9.2 Restored or higher. That's why I was asking. Seemed very odd. Apparently the only thing wrong with it is it was missing a little ink on the cover so someone touched it up with a marker or something. Not understanding why this is confusing some people. I heard missing ink was considered a slight printing error anyways and shouldn't have affected the grade. So probably would have graded even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Restoration is performed in order to IMPROVE the grade. However, unprofessional work can certainly destroy a book too. CGC grades the book as it is. How did you come to the conclusion the book was 9.2? As you must have heard by now: grading is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, Rayhock said: Apparently the only thing wrong with it is it was missing a little ink on the cover so someone touched it up with a marker or something. Not understanding why this is confusing some people. Because we can't see the book and are forced to take your word for it that it should have graded 9.2 I'm guessing there was more wrong with it, perhaps subtle defects that caused CGC to assign it a 8.5 Just a guess because, again, I can't see the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillOnly25Cents Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 must have been one of the “the grader was having a bad day” situations people like to use as excuses for grades coming back worse than they wanted, even though there are supposed to be 3 graders that look at a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Restoration does not reduce the grade of a comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, 15Years said: Yeah I thought that resto was "qualified" because it has it own grading scale. Like, they grade the book like it doesn't have any resto first and then they grade the restoration? Not really. They simply grade the book in terms of how it looks, just as you would any other book. And if it has restoration, it's given a purple label which explains how much restoration there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, StillOnly25Cents said: must have been one of the “the grader was having a bad day” situations people like to use as excuses for grades coming back worse than they wanted, even though there are supposed to be 3 graders that look at a book Plus CGC does have a screening service if you dont want the book to come back slabbed in anything less than 9.2 (in this case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayhock Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 hours ago, shadroch said: That makes no sense. If it were a 9.2 and someone touched it up, it would be a 9.2 Restored or higher. That's why I was asking. Seemed very odd. Apparently the only thing wrong with it is it was missing a little ink on the cover so someone touched it up with a marker or something. Not understanding why this is confusing some people. I heard missing ink was considered a slight printing error anyways and shouldn't have affected the grade. So probably would have graded even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayhock Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Ok, So it should have been graded much higher than it was. Thanks. That is what I thought. Was just making sure. Btw, I do my own screening process. It is not that difficult to figure out what grade a comic should get. I don't send in comics unless they have a chance at getting a 9.8. Amazing, all the people wondering how I could possibly guess at what grade it should be, like it is rocket science or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, StillOnly25Cents said: must have been one of the “the grader was having a bad day” situations people like to use as excuses for grades coming back worse than they wanted, even though there are supposed to be 3 graders that look at a book 2 is the minimum. It hasn't been 3 in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveinthecity Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rayhock said: Ok, So it should have been graded much higher than it was. Thanks. That is what I thought. Was just making sure. Btw, I do my own screening process. It is not that difficult to figure out what grade a comic should get. I don't send in comics unless they have a chance at getting a 9.8. Amazing, all the people wondering how I could possibly guess at what grade it should be, like it is rocket science or something. I’m not clear on why it “should have” graded higher? Did you think this comic was also a 9.8 candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, steveinthecity said: 30 minutes ago, Rayhock said: Ok, So it should have been graded much higher than it was. Thanks. That is what I thought. Was just making sure. Btw, I do my own screening process. It is not that difficult to figure out what grade a comic should get. I don't send in comics unless they have a chance at getting a 9.8. Amazing, all the people wondering how I could possibly guess at what grade it should be, like it is rocket science or something. I’m not clear on why it “should have” graded higher? Did you think this comic was also a 9.8 candidate? He knows what he's doing. It's not like it is rocket science or something steveinthecity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, Rayhock said: Ok, So it should have been graded much higher than it was. Well, you're the expert. That's why you sent it to CGC. Wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Rayhock said: Ok, So it should have been graded much higher than it was. Thanks. That is what I thought. Was just making sure. Btw, I do my own screening process. It is not that difficult to figure out what grade a comic should get. I don't send in comics unless they have a chance at getting a 9.8. Amazing, all the people wondering how I could possibly guess at what grade it should be, like it is rocket science or something. True true. I suggest cracking the book out and resubmitting but this time include a note letting them know the book is an obvious 9.2 so they'll get it right next time. Glassman10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatterEaterLad Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 hours ago, William-James88 said: Restoration does not reduce the grade of a comic. It can if the CT bleeds through to the interior pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) In fairness to the OP, there've been cases of restored books that appear much nicer than their assigned grade, and I've wondered if the fact that the book was restored may have influenced the outcome. I suppose it's arguable whether that occurs more frequently than it does for unrestored books. But, on the other hand, it's also the case that oftentimes a submitter expects a book to achieve a higher grade than it's assigned. And that happens a lot, even with submitters who've had thousands of books graded. OP - posting high resolution scans of the front and back covers would give everybody more to go on than just your word. Edited January 31, 2021 by namisgr MatterEaterLad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, MatterEaterLad said: It can if the CT bleeds through to the interior pages. sure, was just trying to keep things simple MatterEaterLad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
