Readcomix Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I've been puzzling on this, and maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't think these 2 met during the Silver Age. Of all the early Marvel crossovers among characters who were prominent in the early SA, I cannot think of one that includes these two. The earliest meeting I can think of is Daredevil #77 (1971), early Bronze. Can this be right, or am I overlooking/forgetting something obvious? Or something brief, minor and not-at-all obvious?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Esposito Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 If you want them both on the same cover you can go as early as Fantastic Four Annual 1. Spidey is in Sub Mariner 14 (1969), but I don't remember the issue and can't say if they actually meet haha comic_memories and Readcomix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 They’re both in FF annual 3, but I don’t think they interact. This is a good one. You’ve got me thinking. KCOComics and Readcomix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Michael Esposito said: If you want them both on the same cover you can go as early as Fantastic Four Annual 1. Spidey is in Sub Mariner 14 (1969), but I don't remember the issue and can't say if they actually meet haha I know about FF ann 1 but its just images on a cover. I'm talking about actually meeting in continuity. I'll have to dig up a Subby 14 as that's two years earlier than DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, KirbyJack said: They’re both in FF annual 3, but I don’t think they interact. This is a good one. You’ve got me thinking. Exactly; I think whenever it was, it may be the latest actual interaction among 2 major "there at the birth of Marvel" era characters. KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 There had to be something before this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, B2D327 said: There had to be something before this, right? Yeah, DD 77 was before that. Someone above mentioned Subby 14 but I don't have one handy. B2D327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Michael Esposito said: If you want them both on the same cover you can go as early as Fantastic Four Annual 1. Spidey is in Sub Mariner 14 (1969), but I don't remember the issue and can't say if they actually meet haha Spidey is just in a side panel listening to the news, no actual meeting with Subby. Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Here's the page from Daredevil #77. Is this really the first time they met? aardvark88 and Readcomix 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 And there is always this classic, but it's from 1973. silverseeker and comic_memories 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Jaylam said: Here's the page from Daredevil #77. Is this really the first time they met? Crazy as it seems, I can’t think of an earlier example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Submariner 40 is from around the same time. Not sure which came first. Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, shadroch said: Submariner 40 is from around the same time. Not sure which came first. It’s part 2 of a crossover from DD77. Not sure if they are same month or back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Readcomix said: It’s part 2 of a crossover from DD77. Not sure if they are same month or back to back. Really? I vaguely recalled Spidey and Namor in space or another dimension. Don't recall DD in it at all, but it is forty plus years since I read it. I was never a Namor fan but in the summer of 75 I bought a huge stack of them and binge read them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 hours ago, shadroch said: Really? I vaguely recalled Spidey and Namor in space or another dimension. Don't recall DD in it at all, but it is forty plus years since I read it. I was never a Namor fan but in the summer of 75 I bought a huge stack of them and binge read them. Yeah, I stumbled across the connection in my research efforts. DD isn’t in part II in Subby 40, but the events apparently follow on from the three-way meeting in DD77. (June/Aug 1971, respectively). I find it hard to believe these 2 had not met in the Silver Age, but that may be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Daredevil 77 June 1971 - Spidey, DD and Subby Sub-Mariner 14 - June 1969 (No Spidey) - I have a copy. Fantastic Four Annual 1 & 3 - The cover shows Spidey on the cover but never met Subby. #3 - October 1965 Spidey is yet to meet with Subby. MTU 14 October 1973 Sub-Mariner 40 - August 1971 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, JollyComics said: Daredevil 77 June 1971 - Spidey, DD and Subby Sub-Mariner 14 - June 1969 (No Spidey) - I have a copy. Fantastic Four Annual 1 & 3 - The cover shows Spidey on the cover but never met Subby. #3 - October 1965 Spidey is yet to meet with Subby. MTU 14 October 1973 Sub-Mariner 40 - August 1971 Thanks Michael! Gang, our recap so far is above: We cannot as yet identify a real in-continuity meeting between Spidey and Subby earlier than DD 77. Amazingly, it appears they may not have met until the bronze age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Others may disagree but I consider books from the summer of 71 to be Silver Age. I consider the price hike to 20 cents as the cutoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, shadroch said: Others may disagree but I consider books from the summer of 71 to be Silver Age. I consider the price hike to 20 cents as the cutoff. Fair enough, but it’s easy enough to agree that it’s in the grey zone Silver Age at best, as many would put the start of bronze at Conan 1. I’m racking my brain and cannot think of an encounter between the two anywhere that might fall in a broadly agreed upon part of the Marvel Silver era. I can’t think of an encounter with a 12-cent cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 That does seem to be their first meeting, and exactly when the SA ends is certainly subjective. Offhand, I can't think of a meeting between Daredevil and Iron Man in that era. I imagine there are many other examples. Did Doctor Strange encounter Namor before Submariner 34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...