Temperature check - How much do you plan on submitting to CGC in the next 3-6 months? 5 5

[ADAMANTIUM]

8 minutes ago, wombat said:

Don't apologize to wombat. He is kind of a jerk. 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

17 minutes ago, greggy said:

WTF is happening?

[Jesse-Lee]

I never had much before that I felt would be worth getting graded, but now I've gotten a few books that make sense to send in. Anything I get graded would be for my personal collection at this point though. But yeah, I plan/hope to do my first submission within the next six months.

[kav]

36 minutes ago, greggy said:

WTF is happening?

Thats what she said.

[Galen130]

14 minutes ago, kav said:

Thats what she said.

 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

49 minutes ago, Galen130 said:

 

[kav]

13 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Thats what she said.

[Galen130]

Just now, kav said:

Thats what she said.

 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

16 minutes ago, kav said:

29 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

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Thats what she said

15 minutes ago, Galen130 said:

 

 

[kav]

6 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Apologist!!! 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

3 minutes ago, kav said:

Apologist!!! 

[Buzzetta]

8 hours ago, jsilverjanet said:

I’m surprised this post went unnoticed 

@Buzzetta, what are your thoughts 

Usually, every May I send books to Joe and then on to CGC.   I only send around ten books a year but this year I was thinking of sending around 20-30 and finally get some higher value moderns slabbed. 

I will be sending midgrade Silver and Gold instead as I have lost confidence with part of the service. 

Turnaround times: If you decided to send your books to CCS to press and then to CGC to encapsulate then if were to do that right now and they received the books by Monday 5/24 you are looking at receiving your books back sometimes in late March or early April of 2022 using the scheduled Turn Around Times that CGC is reporting.

Here is the big one:

Quality Control: Keep your eyes open here and poke around on the Facebook groups and you will see a few common trending complaints.

• How are books being slabbed with corners folded over the book?
• How are books being slabbed and tearing in the slab?
• How are books being damaged in the slab where entire ridges of the book are being crushed?

This is not on the part of the graders but whoever is actually encapsulating the books.  I have seen crushed corners, tears where the book was grabbed onto by the placeholder, the book sliding around so freely in the slab that the ridges were messed up.

So?  Why would I ever submit a few copies of UF4 in possible 9.6+?  Why would I send down 1st RiRis, Suris, Batman Beyond and other first appearances?  It makes no sense to risk sending down modern books that have shots at 9.8's because something is going on right now. 

So why would I risk sending high grade books to be damaged right now?  If I send mid grade books the risk factor is diminished do to the current condition of the books.  If you ding the corner of an issue of a GA Captain America Comics that would normally grade out at a 4.5 during the encapsulation process, I would never know and would assume that it is part of the grade.   

Edited May 21, 2021 by Buzzetta

[Nic8612]

If they have any interesting in-house signings then I'll send in a book or two. But due to the ridiculous TAT and and price increases I've taken my regular business to the other guys

[jsilverjanet]

3 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

Here is the big one:

thats what she said

[musicmeta]

I plan on making just a couple of submissions this year and into the next.  I'll submit more books than normal due to the TAT's.  I don't like the price increases either but until their profits start falling nothing is going to change IMHYWO.
Also when CGC first started out we knew who the graders were.  They were respected in the comic book business to develop a level of trust.   So who are these new graders?   Are they Joes/Janes off the street that just want a job
and only read a few comic books as a kid?  I don't know anything about the new graders is all I'm saying.  I guess it doesn't matter that much now since CGC is firmly established as the grading leader. 

[MatterEaterLad]

FedEx will be delivering a box of submissions today. If they look good, CGC will get my next batch. If not I'll send to Dallas. (I use them for 2-Day Moderns, but they may get more of my books).

[manetteska]

My 2c:

The ones who submit a comic or two for fun will continue to do so.

The ones who submit b/c their income depends on it will continue to do so.

The ones who are in the middle will, overall, submit less.

Unless/until the heavy submitters stop sending in hundreds of books a month -- and why would they if they depend on the income -- the TATs will not come down.

The middle-level submissions are a drop in the bucket in terms of volume, and the flood of in-house signings essentially negates that. So the middle drop-off will largely go unnoticed in terms of submissions.

[theCapraAegagrus]

CGC isn't dead to me, but 0 is my answer.

[Number 6]

By happenstance I sent a box of books to be graded/reholdered about a week before the announcement.  They’ve been delivered but still not “Received”. 
 

I sent a box of books to my presser about a week after the announcement. But those I was fully intending to submit before the announcement I just hadn’t got around to mailing them so I consider those ‘in-the-pipeline’ pre-announcement. 
 

As of right now, there’s another group of books I was fully intending to send to my presser and then to CGC after he finishes the current batch.  Barring any further negative developments I’ll probably still send those.  But after that...there’s a bunch of other books I had been contemplating submitting but now I probably won’t. 
 

While I’m not thrilled with the TATs I’m not submitting for immediate resale so there’s no pressure that way. 
 

My biggest concern is the seemingly ever-increasing QC horror stories that appear to be moving well beyond the acceptable defect rate. 
 

At this point I’m inclined to actively avoid books graded this year.  And with the proliferation of amateur pressing and escalating prices, I’m not sure how much buying of raw or graded I’ll be doing going forward. 

Edited May 21, 2021 by Number 6

[musicmeta]

16 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

By happenstance I sent a box of books to be graded/reholdered about a week before the announcement.  They’ve been delivered but still not “Received”. 
 

I sent a box of books to my presser about a week after the announcement. But those I was fully intending to submit before the announcement I just hadn’t got around to mailing them so I consider those ‘in-the-pipeline’ pre-announcement. 
 

As of right now, there’s another group of books I was fully intending to send to my presser and then to CGC after he finishes the current batch.  Barring any further negative developments I’ll probably still send those.  But after that...there’s a bunch of other books beyond those I had been contemplating submitting but now I probably won’t. 
 

While I’m not thrilled with the TATs I’m not submitting for immediate resale so there’s pressure that way. 
 

My biggest concern is the seemingly ever-increasing QC horror stories that appear to be moving well beyond the acceptable defect rate. 
 

At this point I’m inclined to actively avoid books graded this year.  And with the proliferation of amateur pressing and escalating prices, I’m not sure how much buying of raw or graded I’ll be doing going forward. 

Yes, the QC issues are a major concern but it's too late for me as the package is there and I just hope they don't mess up the books that might grade 9.6/9.8.